IronTiger

The DART also has light rail at grade, elevated, and underground. It constantly changes.

At peak, about how many stores did T&C have? And what is the old Sakowitz nearby now?

Any ideas? Maybe HELP could be a good name. Hmm...Houston elevated rail transporation. Or not.

Don't know about you, but in Dallas what they do is light rail often runs between roads and stops like normal trains in downtown. In more suburban areas, they function like normal trains (RR crossings). I think light rail/comm rail can parallel this railroad here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source...255432&z=12 Like BART and DART...

I'm not going to make "snarky comments", but in terms of my personal taste, it looks...kind of tacky. The "open wall" is kind of ugly and the bland white ceilings in the living room are kind of...unfinished. In a bad way. Actually, it's mostly the ceilings. The floor is good, though.

What do you mean? In my plan, the tracks were shown as blue...

I believe that the final straw was Forest Fair. Basically, it happened when a developer decided to buy Sakowitz, Bonwit Teller, and B. Altman to make an upscale mall (which was also oddly anchored by a grocery/hypermarket called Bigg's and Elder Beerman), but the mall was in a very middle-class area which could not afford the stores, and all Sakowitz and B. Altman stores closed soon after.

That's what I meant...

I mean, what was it like inside? Did Builder's Square open into the indoors?

I just read about a mall called Deauville Fashion Mall! http://www.levcor.com/Internal.aspx?sSecti...tudies&Id=6 It was near Baybrook Mall, was anchored by a theatre and a hardware store, lasted from 1984-1992, and had space for 40 stores, but had 12 stores when it closed. Anyone have more information?

Have they done anything to the old Lord & Taylor yet?

I noticed survey sticks near Holleman, hopefully they'll expand it across Harvey Mitchell within the near future.

But did Foley's move into Dillard's (Joske's) after Dillard's closed the Joske's building to move to the original Macy's building, then temporarily moved into Wards then moved back after it reopened? That's what I'm wondering.

...and as usual, I find myself way in over my head. So, so long, this topic. Chatter amongst yourselves and your opinions and leave me (and former President Bush) out of this.

Someone mentioned in the "Obama vs. Limbaugh vs. GOP" topic that TexasVines left! When was this? Why?

Question: Baybrook Mall did not have Foley's when it opened (it would compete with Almeda). When did Foley's open then? From what I have, it was... Joske's (mid 1970s-1987) -> Dillard's (1987-mid 1990s) -> Foley's (2005-) Sears (mid 1970s) Montgomery Ward (mid 1970s-2000) -> Foley's (2001-2004) -> razed -> JCPenney (2005-present) Mervyn's (mid 1980s-2006) -> vacant Macy's (mid 1980s-mid 1990s) -> Dillard's (mid 1990s-present)

Yikes! First of all, most of everyone has gone off the deep end. @ Sarahiki: Saying Bush "had a lot of blood on his hands" is a great misunderstanding. If you think the soldiers died in the Middle East because of Bush........then I feel really bad for you, because you misdirect blame and have misdirected blame to others in the past. Nothing I say will change that. @ Memebag: It's okay if you don't like Bush's presidency...that's your opinion and I'm fine with that. It's just the extremists...the ones that blamed Bush on 9/11, made him out to be a monster...or a dunce. @ Gooch: Good point. Well said without getting overly angry or upset. But I don't think Carter got the "bad president crap" that Bush did. @ Crunchtastic: I think that "old school Texas democrat" has really changed...the whole "true" Democrat and Republican thing kind of got messed up in the 1970s. I'm pretty sure that there are some disgruntled ones on both sides angry at the changes. @HtownWxBoy: I don't remember the left being called "unpatriotic"....

Ding! The Left always wanted Bush to fail (and still hate him) yet no one raised a hullaballoo over them. I do like Limbaugh's programming, but I do listen to NPR (and other liberal-leaning media outlets). I don't agree with 100% Limbaugh says, but he makes good points, and so on. I also agree with the logic that if you don't vote (but could), you shouldn't complain. How many Bush-haters actually voted for Gore (or Kerry?). I don't mind Democrats and Republicans...it's what make this country unique. Bush haters suck. I mean, I don't like Obama...I hope he's not praised as much as he is/going to be...but I don't HATE Obama, like those low-lifes hated Bush. Calling Limbaugh an "extreme right" would be like calling whole milk "whipping cream". Yes, it is in that general direction, but there is a pretty big difference. And TexasVines left? When was this?

The Villa Maria/Wellborn access is/was completely different than this one, in a couple of respects... 1) It was an underpass, this is an overpass. 2) It was three-way. 3) The residents in the nearby area had plenty of ways to "avoid the area". There isn't a lot of choices for the west-railroaders. Jones-Butler and Rock Prairie are crowded enough. I made a couple of mistakes on the map: The Southwest corner of the interchange should have the X where the green line is. The Northwest corner doesn't have an east-west green line, though the green line west of the tracks is correct.

I guess traffic/smog levels and "green" ratings are a direct proportion. Which I never would've guessed, BTW.

Unless you avoid the area, the Harvey Mitchell and Wellborn intersection is now under construction in This Map Shows the intersection before construction began. This map shows construction as of today. The gray areas are active roads. These are driven on. The blue line is the railroad. This isn't going anywhere. The green lines are where roads are carved out. They are not paved yet nor accessible. The black line is roads that are now closed. The red line is a completed -with concrete- ramp. The X's are piles of dirt. See, I had heard a frontage road would parallel Harvey Mitchell and loop under the overpass. That would allow access for N. Dowling Rd. (as seen here, near the white warehouse) to access the road. An example of this loop is here. Except the packed X looks like it won't happen. The second X up above is likely to be smoothed out for the temporary road, which already has the railroad gates up. Finally, Wellborn looks like it's just gonna go straight (they even prepared the medians!) but it raises questions of how this is gonna work. How are people going to turn left? Is it gonna be like University and Wellborn? What are your thoughts? Please respond...

A bookstore would not be hard to get, given the recent vacancies at the Mills.

I'm not going to drop exactly how old I am, but 1993 seems way too early for that. I'm still betting 1995.

It would helpful if the map was marked a bit more, as a map of the highways provide very little assistance to a non-Houston native. I could generally guess where some areas are, it's just the inner-city bits. Where does the red line go? There's an abandoned ROW that parallels SH-288, is that it? http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=29....031929&z=15

I would love to see pictures of the old, tree-laden Greenspoint. Never grew up there...