Houston19514

Then you tear down a badly-built 5 story building. Or tear down an obsolete 20 story building. Or build in Eado or Midtown or Hardy Yards. All the same things they do in Manhattan.

1. I'm disregarding international migration??? I specifically mentioned it. (Even though it's not really relevant to the topic of whether people are, on balance, "leav[ing] "world class cities" like New York and Chicago every year and move to hick southern towns like Houston," as LivinCinco originally stated.) 2. As you well know, no one has suggested that Houston is about to overtake NYC in population at either a city or metro level. With respect, it is a waste of time to attempt to have a meaningful conversation with anyone who is either ignorant enough to think, or dishonest enough to make the claim, that Houston's population jump is a "recent trend". Houston Urbanized Area Population: 1940: 471,000 1950: 701,000 48.8% growth 1960: 1,140,000 62.6% growth 1970: 1,678,000 47.2% growth 1980: 2,757,000 64.3% growth 1990: 3,088,000 12% growth 2000: 4,063,000 31.6% growth 2010: 5,382,000 32.5% growth City of Houston Population: 1900: 44,633 1910: 78,800 76.6% growth 1920: 138,276 75.5% growth 1930: 292,352 111.4% growth 1940: 384,514 31.5% growth 1950: 596,163 55% growth 1960: 938,219 57.4% growth 1970: 1,232,802 31.4% growth 1980: 1,595,138 29.4% growth 1990: 1,630,553 2.2% growth 2000: 1,980,578 21.5% growth 2010: 2,099,451 6% growth 2012: 2,160,821 2.9% growth (in 2.25 years) Buh bye

You must be looking at a different development map than I am. I don't see anything in Atlanta developments on that map that is better than ours and there is a whole lot less of it (including downtown residential) than on the Houston map.

^ LOL :-)

I've repeatedly shown you the net migration numbers, both domestic and international. Yes, NYC has very minor net in-migration , but only because of international migration. The reality, no matter how much you may dislike it, is that far more people choose to leave NYC metro for other US locations than vice versa and far more people choose to move TO Houston metro from other US destinations (including NYC) than vice versa. The exact opposite of what you would have us believe. (By the way, I'm curious where you got your 2013 population number for NYC, as the Census Bureau won't be releasing those numbers until some time in May. But FWIW, the City of Houston grew by a higher percentage just through 2010.)

Yeah, I kinda thought so. "Mistakes" are pretty much his specialty. ;-)

ROFL You are hilarious.

I don't know where you came up with those numbers, but they are not the net migration numbers for the New York City metropolitan area for either the most recent year (2012-2013) or for the most recent 3.25 year period (2010-2013). I accurately reported the Census Bureau's numbers for the most recent year in my earlier posts. If you are now attempting to change the subject to just the city of New York City, rather than the metro area, you may have given a very misleading presentation of the net migration figures. According to the article you linked earlier, in the most recent year (2012-2013) the city of New York City experienced net international migration of 73,000 and net domestic migration of -67,000 (67,000 more people left the city of New York City for other US locations than moved to NYC from other US locations). And in case you were wondering, Census Data show that more people are moving from the NYC metro area to the Houston metro area than vice versa.

The article speaks of percentage of commuters using transit, so the population increase/decrease or increase/decrease in number of jobs is not very important information.

Yes, the census numbers are what I quoted from above. Total net migration into NYC was 18,000. That consists of international net migration 128,000 and domestic net migration of negative 110,000 (that is to say 110,000 more people chose to leave NYC for other US locations than chose to move to NYC from other US locations). Meanwhile, the much smaller and car-choked, unhealthy, unsustainable, undesirable Houston had total net migration of 81,000. That consists of international net migration of 25,500 and net domestic migration of 55,600 (that is to say, 55,600 more people chose to move to Houston from other US locations than chose to move from Houston to other US locations.) http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

Where did I say 0 people moved from Houston? I quite clearly stated the opposite. 55,000 is the net domestic migration. While it might be strictly true, It was misleading (to put it nicely) to state that 223,000 people move to NYC every year and you know it (or should know it). The fact is, NYC is only gaining about 18,000 people per year by migration (domestic + international) and is losing population to other places in the US (including Houston), to the tune of 110,000 people per year.

No. Historically the President has flown into Ellington. Wonder why the change?

See, this is where these discussions always break down. It is nothing short of dishonest to claim there has not been much of a difference in traffic as a result of the Katy Freeway expansion. It is also dishonest to claim (or imply) that you have to pay to use all of the additional lanes. Further, as you surely know, not all of the $2.8 Billion was tax money. Harris County Toll Road Authority paid $500 Million towards the project, so those lanes you are complaining about having to pay to use... tax money did not pay for them. So, for the $2.3 Billion of tax money invested in the 23 mile widening project, we could have had, what, 3 miles of subway, every bit of which you would have to pay to use? I'm generally pro-rail and would love for Houston to have a huge subway system, but it's hard for me to figure out how to justify that kind of expenditure in a city like Houston.

And apparently 205,000 leave New York per year. Their net migration is only 18,000. FWIW, 110,000 more people leave NYC every year for other places in the US than move to NYC from other places in the US. (Negative domestic migration of 110,000) In comparison, 55,000 more people moved to Houston from other places in the US than moved from Houston to other places in the US. (Positive domestic migration of 55,000)

This article says it is $1.6 Billion for 1.7 miles of subway. $941 Million + per mile.

Yeah, and you can check my math, but I don't think a 1 to 1 match will get you $900 Million from the Feds when Metro is putting up about $350 Million of its own money. And where do you get the idea that we could have built a 7.5 mile subway for only $1.2 Billion or even $1.8 Billion?

No. The log cabin is a bit further to the east/southeast.

Yes, according to the Chron article linked above, it is 150 acres.

Even if the tunnels did not exist, a subway line would almost certainly be below their level anyway, just to avoid the other underground infrastructure.

^ The gap at its narrowest point is what, about 50 feet? And it is at its narrowest for literally only a point, and rather rapidly expands from that narrowest point. Constructing a high-rise around that does not strike me as particularly difficult or costly. I think we have at least one high-rise building tower in Houston that is only about 50 feet wide for its entire height. Perhaps I am overestimating the size of the gap at the narrowest point.

No. Korean Airlines is not part of OneWorld. They are a member of SkyTeam with Delta.

It appears to be the former (along Cambridge, facing Hermann Park).

The Feds don't do 3 to 1 matches.

No opportunity has been lost in connection with the surface parking by the Embassy Suites. The opportunity is still there. (Embassy Suites does not own the parking lot.)

No, they aren't. At least not in Chicago. Just saying.