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  1. There are lies, damned lies and statistics.

    Let's put this open/closed roof record in perspective.

    The Astros were 15-11 with the roof open. The roof was closed from June 2 till the end of the season. The Astros SUCKED prior to June 2. Their road record was 5-22.

    After June 2, with the roof closed, they were 38-17. On the road, they were 31-23. Using percentages, it is even more obvious.

    April to June 2 - .577 home

    June to October - .691 home Difference - .114 increase

    April to June 2 - .185 away

    June to October - .574 away Difference - .389 increase

    So, 15-11 during the early part of the season was actually a very good record, compared to their away record. After June 2, they were great at home AND away. The roof had nothing to do with it. It was home field advantage, not closed roof advantage. After all the talk of the 'Stros coming back from 15-30 to win the pennant, I don't know why no one saw this.

    EXCELLENT WORK!! That very thought had crossed my mind, but I had not taken the initiative to put the numbers together.

    My problem with the whole roof open order is the weasely way the commish did it. He did it to Arizona, what three, four years ago. Why didn't he make it a formal rule after that? He knew the whole time leading to the end of the season that the Astros were leaving the roof closed even in good weather, why didn't he announce a general policy then? He SURELY saw the Astros keeping the roof closed for the playoff games against both Atlanta and St. Louis. Why was it not important then? And THEN, when the Astros won the playoffs against STL, he knew they had kept the roof closed, but kept silent about it, until after the World Series had started and then waited some more until after we'd played a game in Chicago and then waited some more until after we'd played another game in Chicago, and then waited some more until the day between Chicago and Houston and even then couldn't "announce" his order until THE DAY OF THE FREAKIN' GAME, Game 3 of the FREAKIN' World Series. What, he didn't know it was coming? The World Series suddenly snuck up on him? Did someone just step in his office Monday afternoon, and say, hey Commish, did you know the Astros have a ROOF on their stadium? What a freakin' idiot!

  2. Nobody has mentioned mosquitos yet. I believe that was one of the top reasons 'ol Roy built the dome in the first place.....

    That's another thing on which Houstonians (including, or rather, especially, the media) seem to think they have cornered the market. In my experience, Houston's mosquito "problem" is no worse than other places, and a good deal better than some.

  3. I tend to agree with you. However, I'm afraid that ridership on that line will never reach its potential if it does not go through the core of Uptown. As I understand the plan, if one wants to go from downtown to somewhere in Uptown, one will have to take the Red Line south, change trains on to the University Line west, then change to BRT to go up Post Oak. That's insane.

  4. Sorry if you disagree, but you could offer something more than a juvenile dismaissal when you do it.

    I think that the scale of St. Martin's is impressive. The details, however, are a bit overdone. I thought that, as a modern rendition of the Gothic style, some restraint might be used. The design is very busy, however.

    The interior, though a grand expanse, is very cluttered at the east end. An organ and choir at the east end, behind an ornate faux Victorian roodscreen-sans rood-just seems a bit too much to me. Facing the choir towards the congregation also seems out of place in a traditional Episcopal church building.

    If they wanted a "traditional" design, the organ and choir should not be the ultimate focal point in the room; iit should be the altar. And six candles on the screen behind the altar? Has there been a shift in St. Martin's eucharistic theology? Or was it just something else to throw in?

    As I said before, the scale is impressive, and intention seemed right, but the final product seems to be a pastiche of "traditional" church design elements.

    I just spent some time on St. Martin's website. They have a nice selection of pictures. It appears to be a VERY traditional Episcopal church layout. See, for example Christ Church Cathedral downtown and the National Cathedral in Washington DC, both of which also have the choir "facing" the congregation.

    They also both have ornate rood screens.

    I don't really understand your comment about the organ and choir being the ultimate focal point in the room. From the photos, it seems clear that the altar is indeed the ultimate focal point. In any event, the arrangement is VERY traditional and can be found in traditional gothic and episcopal churches around the world. I'm pretty sure I've seen the six candle thing many times as well, but I would imagine that was determined by someone with a firmer theological grounding than either you or I, or, for that matter, the architect.

    Also, it appears to me to be a quite-restrained (modernized, if you will) rendition of the gothic style. It is positively austere compared to the older gothic cathedrals such as The National Cathedral, St. Patrick's in NYC, etc.

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  5. Sorry if you disagree, but you could offer something more than a juvenile dismaissal when you do it.

    I think that the scale of St. Martin's is impressive. The details, however, are a bit overdone. I thought that, as a modern rendition of the Gothic style, some restraint might be used. The design is very busy, however.

    The interior, though a grand expanse, is very cluttered at the east end. An organ and choir at the east end, behind an ornate faux Victorian roodscreen-sans rood-just seems a bit too much to me. Facing the choir towards the congregation also seems out of place in a traditional Episcopal church building.

    If they wanted a "traditional" design, the organ and choir should not be the ultimate focal point in the room; iit should be the altar. And six candles on the screen behind the altar? Has there been a shift in St. Martin's eucharistic theology? Or was it just something else to throw in?

    As I said before, the scale is impressive, and intention seemed right, but the final product seems to be a pastiche of "traditional" church design elements.

    Sorry, but your earlier post gave us nothing to agree or disagree with, just a pretentious and dare I say, juvenile, dismissal of the structure.

    Your latest post, however, is very interesting and actually tells us something. I have not seen the building up close, so I can really neither agree nor disagree with anything you have written. But I find your observations very interesting and informative and they make me want to see the structure even more than before. One question, you complain that the design is very busy for a Gothic style. I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the Gothic style is a very busy style. Do I have my styles mixed up?

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  6. One of the main reasons for the roof on Reliant Stadium is the Rodeo.

    I've had the same thoughts. There are many summer days where the heat index is higher in DFW and, yes, even as far north as St. Louis, than it is in Houston. But STL and DFW fans manage to go to outdoor games. Maybe Houstonians just got spoiled with having the world's first indoor stadium and all. That, and most Houstonians, espcially those in the media, seem to believe that Houston is the hottest place in the country.

    Having said that, I think the Commissioner's late and seeemingly random decision to force the roof open was total BS (although I too doubt that it really made any difference).

  7. The City of Houston still owns the property (the former Compaq Center) and Lakewood has a long-term lease. IIRC, it's something like a thirty-year lease with an option to renew for thirty additional years.

    KJB, do you have a source for your story about Lakewood trying to build where the downtown park is going to be? I'm highly skeptical. There was a connection between some of that land and the new Lakewood Church, but I think your source may have gotten the story confused.

    Here's the deal... Lakewood entered into the lease with the city to take over the Compaq Center. Crescent Real Estate objected to the lease. (Crescent owns the surrounding Greenway Plaza development, including, I believe, the parking garages.) Crescent also owned the land in front of the GRB downtown (they had held that land as part of the Houston Center development). The City had been wanting to acquire some of Crescent's land downtown. So as part of a global settlement among Lakewood, Crescent, and the City of Houston, Crescent agreed to allow Lakewood into the Compaq Center, Compaq and Lakewood agreed to terms regarding usage of parking facilities, and Crescent sold some of its downtown land to the City.

  8. Appletree is owned by Safeway? We have Appletree here in Bryan/College Station, but I don't see them in other places. They don't even have a website. About a year ago I remember Appletrees of Bryan/College Station saying that a big new Appletree would be openig in Houston.

    No, Appletree is not owned by Safeway. I believe what happened is that Safeway used to be in the Houston (and other Texas) markets, but completely pulled out. When they pulled out, they sold the operation to a newly-formed company that named themselves Appletree. Appletree went bankrupt, in the early-mid 90s and its Houston stores were sold off at that time... Kroger bought some, I think Randall's bought some, I think Rice bought some...) I'm surprised to hear they still exist at all.

  9. Let's put an end to this silliness, once and for all.

    Yakuza was correct. BP's North American HQ is in Warrenville, Illinois

    North American headquarters

    28100 Torch Parkway

    Warrenville, IL

    60555-3938

    United States

    Tel +1 630 420 5111

    BP

    This is also somewhat of a remnant of its "Standard Oil days." BP first bought Standard Oil of Ohio, which was based in Cleveland. For a time, then, BP's North American HQ was indeed in Cleveland. But they later also bought Standard Oil of Indiana (aka Amoco), which was based in Chicago, downtown in the huge white skyscraper right on the lakefront known locally as "Big Stan". When the combined the former Standard of Ohio with the former Amoco, the North American HQ ended up in Chicago (or Chicagoland; I'm not sure when they abandoned the downtown skyscraper and moved to the suburbs.)

    I think BP's US headquarters is still in Cleveland. Remnents of it's Standard Oil days.

  10. and they were in West Oaks and Greenspoint too. (Memorial City) I might have gotten it mixed up with Town & Country my mistake its been like 10 years since they left..... I know most people don't belive that Marshall Field's was at Greenspoint but I still remember picking up family from Bush Int' and going to Greenspoint and shopping at Marshall Field's, keep in mind that when Greenspoint opened and was a very nice mall, I haven't been there since I was like 12......

    I'm pretty certain your memory is faulty. You might be thinking of Lord & Taylor, I don't know for sure about that. Here's a clip from a history of Marshall Field's, which discusses all of the stores they ever had in Texas:

    Expansion to 1990/Corporate History

    The 1980's was a slower growth period for Chicago area stores with locations added at just Spring Hill Mall in West Dundee and Stratford Square in Bloomington. But the 1980's did see further expansion into Texas with stores opened at The Galleria in Houston (actually opened in 1979), the Dallas Galleria in 1982, Town & Country Mall in Houston in 1983, and North Star Mall in San Antonio in 1986 . . . The 4 Texas stores were sold in 1997 and the the Columbus, Ohio stores in 2003.

  11. Marshall Field's had four locations at The Galleria, West Oaks Mall, Memorial City Mall, and GREENSPOINT MALL. Saks Fifth Avenue was located at Pavillion on Post Oak, Town & Country Mall, and West Oaks Mall (and I belive they at one point had a store in Friendswood)

    You have your Marshall Fields history confused. They were never at Greenspoint, Memorial City, or West Oaks. They WERE in Town & Country and, of course, The Galleria.

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