ChannelTwoNews Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Is there anything to this project or is it just a rendering with a ton of wishful thinking behind it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Well this may also be why so much land is being cleared. I tell you, Greenspoint will really become an attractive area for business when the mall is renovated and all the lofts and resturants come in. It's close to the airport and two major freeways. This is not suprising to me at all to see this type of development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Is this it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Is there a demand right now for office space in Greenspoint? I think it is an ideal area (near the airport, near the beltway AND I45) but it seems like development demand has moved elsewhere...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Impossible Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 That tower looks so 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I think part of the reason the buildings are not spectacular is that I am sure there are height restrictions being so close to the airport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The same holds true for downtown. I don't know why JP could not be another 5 floors. They fly around downtown, not over it. Will JP forever be the tallest building downtown, or has the height restrictions been lifted?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The same holds true for downtown. I don't know why JP could not be another 5 floors. They fly around downtown, not over it. Will JP forever be the tallest building downtown, or has the height restrictions been lifted??Dunno .. actually didn't know there was a height restriction downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 (edited) I think part of the reason the buildings are not spectacular is that I am sure there are height restrictions being so close to the airport?Building height is a function of demand and construction costs. Nobody is going to build a skyscraper in Greenspoint because they couldn't get high enough rents to make such a large and particularly expensive project financially feasible.Additionally, the building is not spectacular because either the architect or their developer client has apparently been in a cave for the last 10 years. Buildings of all heights and dimensions can look cutting edge if the architect knows what he's doing and can sell class. Edited July 26, 2007 by TheNiche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T 2 THA C Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 That tower looks so 1999.Maybe the architecht and developer wants it to fit in with the current skyline in Greenspoint. I think this is great for Greenspoint including the mall renovation. The area dos not deserve its reputation. When I lived on the Northside a while ago we always went to Greenspoint because we thought it was nice. I awlways was confused when I would hear someone say Greenspoint was in the Hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Maybe the architecht and developer wants it to fit in with the current skyline in Greenspoint. I think this is great for Greenspoint including the mall renovation. The area dos not deserve its reputation. When I lived on the Northside a while ago we always went to Greenspoint because we thought it was nice. I awlways was confused when I would hear someone say Greenspoint was in the Hood.The correct term would be "gunspoint" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Dunno .. actually didn't know there was a height restriction downtown.There is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 There is not.the city defers to the FAA. the FAA determines whether they feel flight paths are affected, how the structure would affect radar, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 If they wouldn't allow JP to go up to 80 floors, why would they change their mind now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 If they wouldn't allow JP to go up to 80 floors, why would they change their mind now?Technology has changed a lot since the restrictions of the 70's and 80's were drawn up. Ground radar is being replaced by satellite navigation, for example. There are a fair number of pilots on HAIF. Maybe one of them will chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 It does seem to have an entry as a LEED registered project at this point, though I'm not sure as to what that means when it comes to construction or proposal status.http://www.usgbc.org/LEED/Project/Register...spx?ID=10077955 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) If they wouldn't allow JP to go up to 80 floors, why would they change their mind now?It wasn't suppose to be 80. It could have been a 100. It was originally suppose to be 60, hence the observation deck. Edited August 23, 2007 by Montrose1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 It wasn't suppose to be 80. It could have been a 100. It was originally suppose to be 60, hence the observation deck.Nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saddleman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Can someone produce an authentic FAA document that says the building was supposed to 80 stories. I can't find one myself. Until I see one I'm calling bullsh!t on the whole 80-story urban legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 there was a thread some time ago about FAA issues and building heights. it may have been before the haif crash though. i believe the information we received concluded that there were no height restrictions. maybe someone else will remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 there was a thread some time ago about FAA issues and building heights. it may have been before the haif crash though. i believe the information we received concluded that there were no height restrictions. maybe someone else will remember.You know I want to say that I remember seeing it on the observation deck. Why don't one of you go check it out. If it's not there, at least you have a cool view! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saddleman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I've been up there, and I don't recall anything about 80 stories. I want to see the document. I guess I'll keep looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Can someone produce an authentic FAA document that says the building was supposed to 80 stories. I can't find one myself. Until I see one I'm calling bullsh!t on the whole 80-story urban legend.Not an FAA Document, but...JPMorgan Chase Tower was originally planned to be 80 stories tall, but the Federal Aviation Administration limited this and future buildings to 75 stories; anything higher would be labeled by the federal agency as hazardous to air navigation. Located here: http://www.chasetower.com/buildinghistory.htmI do recall reading the post somewhere (I'm pretty sure it was here!) with the same statement that the 80 story restriction was a mere myth or just outright false and that one of the commenters was surprised that the quoted statement was on the tower's official website. Wish someone could dig that up though... Edited August 24, 2007 by ChannelTwoNews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saddleman Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 'I do recall reading the post somewhere (I'm pretty sure it was here!) with the same statement that the 80 story restriction was a mere myth or just outright false and that one of the commenters was surprised that the quoted statement was on the tower's official website. Wish someone could dig that up though... 'Oh the wikiality of it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Nonsensee-mail the architect if you don't believe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 e-mail the architect if you don't believe me.Just for the record, THIS is what I was calling nonsense: "It was originally suppose to be 60, hence the observation deck." The "observation deck" is there because of the upper elevator lobby. Just like in Wells Fargo and Williams Tower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Isn't the subject matter supposed to be about a 21 story building in Greenspoint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marty Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) If this gets built it will be the second tallest building in Greenspoint, 4 Greenpoint Plaza is the tallest at 24 stories. Edited August 27, 2007 by Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What's the latest with this? Also, the Greenspoint Mall renovation was supposed to have started months ago and to my knowledge, the first shovel of dirt hasen't even been turned yet. Anybody know what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I used to work out there. Pretty dangerous place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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