Guest danax Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 We talk about crime in the various Houston nabes a lot and it has a tendency to pull topics askew so I thought I'd list the real stats courtesy of Houston Crime Maps. It appears that their list includes all reported crimes from January, 2004 to October, 2007. I've posted 7 categories. One thing worth wondering is how comparable the populations in each of these areas are.Not bragging because I live here but it only reinforces my experience; the East End doesn't show up in the top ten in any of these categories except drunk driving. Alief.......just shows how far the burbs can fall. I am surprised about Westwood, although there are a lot of skankesque apartments nearby. Fifth Ward and Third Ward only show up for assault and drugs. Greenspoint crime isn't myth; it's the northern SW Houston.Top Neighborhoods for Murder & Nonnegligent Manslaughter1.Alief (68 crimes)2.Sharpstown (66 crimes)3.Greater Fondren S.W. (41 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (39 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (35 crimes)6.Westwood (32 crimes)7.Central Southwest (31 crimes)8.Gulfton (31 crimes)9.Near Northside (29 crimes)10.Braeburn (28 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Robbery1.Sharpstown (2,779 crimes)2.Alief (1,987 crimes)3.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,469 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,322 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,296 crimes)6.Gulfton (1,032 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (994 crimes)8.Greater Fondren S.W. (885 crimes)9.Westwood (786 crimes)10.Near Northside (768 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Aggravated Assault1.Sharpstown (1,708 crimes)2.Alief (1,584 crimes)3.Greater Fifth Ward (1,189 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,067 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,039 crimes)6.Ost/South Union (1,019 crimes)7.Sunnyside (992 crimes)8.Greater Third Ward (987 crimes)9.Greater Hobby Area (957 crimes)10.Greater Fondren S.W. (941 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Burglary1.Alief (4,573 crimes)2.Sharpstown (3,392 crimes)3.Greater Heights (2,640 crimes)4.Greater Fondren S.W. (2,477 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (2,430 crimes)6.Northside Northline (2,397 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (2,303 crimes)8.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,173 crimes)9.Central Southwest (2,085 crimes)10.Greater Inwood (2,042 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Auto Theft1.Sharpstown (3,986 crimes)2.Northside Northline (2,957 crimes)3.Alief (2,921 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (2,880 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (2,590 crimes)6.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,028 crimes)7.Gulfton (1,600 crimes)8.Oak Forest/Garden Oaks (1,547 crimes)9.Central Southwest (1,512 crimes)10.Greater Heights (1,399 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Narcotic Drug Laws1.Greater Fifth Ward (1,682 crimes)2.Greater Third Ward (1,496 crimes)3.Eastex/Jensen Area (1,372 crimes)4.Sharpstown (1,358 crimes)5.Ost/South Union (1,294 crimes)6.Midtown (1,239 crimes)7.Alief (1,224 crimes)8.Sunnyside (1,174 crimes)9.Montrose (1,170 crimes)10.Independence Heights (1,141 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Driving While Intoxicated1.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,239 crimes)2.Sharpstown (834 crimes)3.Greater Uptown (793 crimes)4.Golfcrest/Reveille (658 crimes)5.Northside Northline (510 crimes)6.Memorial Park/Washington Avenue (442 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (397 crimes)8.Briarforest Area (384 crimes)9.Magnolia Park (347 crimes)10.Greater Heights (314 crimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldHouseLover Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Been in East End everday recently & have seen more police cars buzzing around than ever before, especially in the Sunnylan[d] area. We talk about crime in the various Houston nabes a lot and it has a tendency to pull topics askew so I thought I'd list the real stats courtesy of Houston Crime Maps. It appears that their list includes all reported crimes from January, 2004 to October, 2007. I've posted 7 categories. One thing worth wondering is how comparable the populations in each of these areas are.Not bragging because I live here but it only reinforces my experience; the East End doesn't show up in the top ten in any of these categories except drunk driving. Alief.......just shows how far the burbs can fall. I am surprised about Westwood, although there are a lot of skankesque apartments nearby. Fifth Ward and Third Ward only show up for assault and drugs. Greenspoint crime isn't myth; it's the northern SW Houston.Top Neighborhoods for Murder & Nonnegligent Manslaughter1.Alief (68 crimes)2.Sharpstown (66 crimes)3.Greater Fondren S.W. (41 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (39 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (35 crimes)6.Westwood (32 crimes)7.Central Southwest (31 crimes)8.Gulfton (31 crimes)9.Near Northside (29 crimes)10.Braeburn (28 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Robbery1.Sharpstown (2,779 crimes)2.Alief (1,987 crimes)3.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,469 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,322 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,296 crimes)6.Gulfton (1,032 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (994 crimes)8.Greater Fondren S.W. (885 crimes)9.Westwood (786 crimes)10.Near Northside (768 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Aggravated Assault1.Sharpstown (1,708 crimes)2.Alief (1,584 crimes)3.Greater Fifth Ward (1,189 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,067 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,039 crimes)6.Ost/South Union (1,019 crimes)7.Sunnyside (992 crimes)8.Greater Third Ward (987 crimes)9.Greater Hobby Area (957 crimes)10.Greater Fondren S.W. (941 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Burglary1.Alief (4,573 crimes)2.Sharpstown (3,392 crimes)3.Greater Heights (2,640 crimes)4.Greater Fondren S.W. (2,477 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (2,430 crimes)6.Northside Northline (2,397 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (2,303 crimes)8.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,173 crimes)9.Central Southwest (2,085 crimes)10.Greater Inwood (2,042 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Auto Theft1.Sharpstown (3,986 crimes)2.Northside Northline (2,957 crimes)3.Alief (2,921 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (2,880 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (2,590 crimes)6.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,028 crimes)7.Gulfton (1,600 crimes)8.Oak Forest/Garden Oaks (1,547 crimes)9.Central Southwest (1,512 crimes)10.Greater Heights (1,399 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Narcotic Drug Laws1.Greater Fifth Ward (1,682 crimes)2.Greater Third Ward (1,496 crimes)3.Eastex/Jensen Area (1,372 crimes)4.Sharpstown (1,358 crimes)5.Ost/South Union (1,294 crimes)6.Midtown (1,239 crimes)7.Alief (1,224 crimes)8.Sunnyside (1,174 crimes)9.Montrose (1,170 crimes)10.Independence Heights (1,141 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Driving While Intoxicated1.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,239 crimes)2.Sharpstown (834 crimes)3.Greater Uptown (793 crimes)4.Golfcrest/Reveille (658 crimes)5.Northside Northline (510 crimes)6.Memorial Park/Washington Avenue (442 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (397 crimes)8.Briarforest Area (384 crimes)9.Magnolia Park (347 crimes)10.Greater Heights (314 crimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieve Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 We talk about crime in the various Houston nabes a lot and it has a tendency to pull topics askew so I thought I'd list the real stats courtesy of Houston Crime Maps. It appears that their list includes all reported crimes from January, 2004 to October, 2007. I've posted 7 categories. One thing worth wondering is how comparable the populations in each of these areas are.Not bragging because I live here but it only reinforces my experience; the East End doesn't show up in the top ten in any of these categories except drunk driving. Alief.......just shows how far the burbs can fall. I am surprised about Westwood, although there are a lot of skankesque apartments nearby. Fifth Ward and Third Ward only show up for assault and drugs. Greenspoint crime isn't myth; it's the northern SW Houston.Top Neighborhoods for Murder & Nonnegligent Manslaughter1.Alief (68 crimes)2.Sharpstown (66 crimes)3.Greater Fondren S.W. (41 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (39 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (35 crimes)6.Westwood (32 crimes)7.Central Southwest (31 crimes)8.Gulfton (31 crimes)9.Near Northside (29 crimes)10.Braeburn (28 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Robbery1.Sharpstown (2,779 crimes)2.Alief (1,987 crimes)3.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,469 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,322 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,296 crimes)6.Gulfton (1,032 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (994 crimes)8.Greater Fondren S.W. (885 crimes)9.Westwood (786 crimes)10.Near Northside (768 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Aggravated Assault1.Sharpstown (1,708 crimes)2.Alief (1,584 crimes)3.Greater Fifth Ward (1,189 crimes)4.Northside Northline (1,067 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (1,039 crimes)6.Ost/South Union (1,019 crimes)7.Sunnyside (992 crimes)8.Greater Third Ward (987 crimes)9.Greater Hobby Area (957 crimes)10.Greater Fondren S.W. (941 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Burglary1.Alief (4,573 crimes)2.Sharpstown (3,392 crimes)3.Greater Heights (2,640 crimes)4.Greater Fondren S.W. (2,477 crimes)5.Greater Greenspoint (2,430 crimes)6.Northside Northline (2,397 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (2,303 crimes)8.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,173 crimes)9.Central Southwest (2,085 crimes)10.Greater Inwood (2,042 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Auto Theft1.Sharpstown (3,986 crimes)2.Northside Northline (2,957 crimes)3.Alief (2,921 crimes)4.Greater Greenspoint (2,880 crimes)5.Greater Hobby Area (2,590 crimes)6.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (2,028 crimes)7.Gulfton (1,600 crimes)8.Oak Forest/Garden Oaks (1,547 crimes)9.Central Southwest (1,512 crimes)10.Greater Heights (1,399 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Narcotic Drug Laws1.Greater Fifth Ward (1,682 crimes)2.Greater Third Ward (1,496 crimes)3.Eastex/Jensen Area (1,372 crimes)4.Sharpstown (1,358 crimes)5.Ost/South Union (1,294 crimes)6.Midtown (1,239 crimes)7.Alief (1,224 crimes)8.Sunnyside (1,174 crimes)9.Montrose (1,170 crimes)10.Independence Heights (1,141 crimes)Top Neighborhoods for Driving While Intoxicated1.Woodlake/Briarmeadow (1,239 crimes)2.Sharpstown (834 crimes)3.Greater Uptown (793 crimes)4.Golfcrest/Reveille (658 crimes)5.Northside Northline (510 crimes)6.Memorial Park/Washington Avenue (442 crimes)7.Greater Hobby Area (397 crimes)8.Briarforest Area (384 crimes)9.Magnolia Park (347 crimes)10.Greater Heights (314 crimes)Whewwwwwww! I panicked when I saw Westwood but then realized there are two Westwoods and thankfully Westwood within the 77025 is not in the top 10! Still, alarming numbers indeed for the various areas of the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 (edited) good information. sharpstown should hire that man in pasadena who shot the two burglars for security. they definitely have some issues.almost 89000 burglaries is staggering as well. Edited November 29, 2007 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Wow. So many of the high murder rate areas are in the south west between the 610 and beltway. That makes me so glad that I live inside the loop. Even Sugarland and the Galleria are closer to the murder zones than I am.I know a few people from Rice who live in that part of town. The reason they live so far away is they claim it is cheaper, but one guy has had his car stolen once and broken into 3 times. Is it really worth it? It's not even that much cheaper than what I have paid in side the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I am surprised about Westwood, although there are a lot of skankesque apartments nearby.The Westwood referred by this is the Houston Super Neighborhood #29 - Westwood - Which is a part of the far southwest side: http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/nbhd_svc...rInfo/SN_29.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 One thing worth wondering is how comparable the populations in each of these areas are.I wouldn't say that was "worth wondering", I'd say that invalidates the rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I wouldn't say that was "worth wondering", I'd say that invalidates the rankings.Maybe I should've put rankings in quotes as that was my term. One way that I did find to compare per capita crime was to take the total crimes by HPD division and then divide those numbers by the estimated population of each per the HPD website.. I did the division and below are the results;# CRIMES PER CAPITASOUTH CENTRAL .236NORTH DIVISION .223SOUTHEAST .210CENTRAL .210FONDREN .201WESTSIDE .200NORTHWEST .176NORTHEAST .172CLEAR LAKE .159SOUTHWEST .144EASTSIDE .130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Been in East End everday recently & have seen more police cars buzzing around than ever before, especially in the Sunnylan[d] area. > See what continous letters/emails and phone calls can do. > Keep in mind too, that this tiny area is merely a passage way for all automobiles entering and leaving the neighborhods that surround. Makes a perfect spot for HPD to do survellaince as well. Love it. PS, the stats above (topic) are as perfect as it gets. We love the Near East End! Thank you HPD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Maybe I should've put rankings in quotes as that was my term. One way that I did find to compare per capita crime was to take the total crimes by HPD division and then divide those numbers by the estimated population of each per the HPD website.. I did the division and below are the results;# CRIMES PER CAPITASOUTH CENTRAL .236NORTH DIVISION .223SOUTHEAST .210CENTRAL .210FONDREN .201WESTSIDE .200NORTHWEST .176NORTHEAST .172CLEAR LAKE .159SOUTHWEST .144EASTSIDE .130That's a very different picture than any of the other rankings you posted. Sharpstown and Alief look a lot better using those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Wow. So many of the high murder rate areas are in the south west between the 610 and beltway. That makes me so glad that I live inside the loop. Even Sugarland and the Galleria are closer to the murder zones than I am.You might want to look at the per capita numbers. "Inside the loop" could be the most dangerous place in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 PS, the stats above (topic) are as perfect as it gets. We love the Near East End! Thank you HPD!don't waste that bottle of champagne, the near east end is covered by the south central station not the eastside station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 The near east end stats are probably further skewed because many of the calls, especially on property crime, go to Victor Trevino's office and not HPD at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I'm glad Memebag brought up the point about crimes per capita, which is a much more relevant statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I'm glad Memebag brought up the point about crimes per capita, which is a much more relevant statistic.But there are problems with the per capita statistics as well. They are based on the number of people residing in an area. Busy commercial areas, such as Downtown, Uptown, TMC, Greenway etc. have many thousands of non-resident people (and cars) in them every day, so the per capita statistics skew against all of those districts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 But there are problems with the per capita statistics as well. They are based on the number of people residing in an area. Busy commercial areas, such as Downtown, Uptown, TMC, Greenway etc. have many thousands of non-resident people (and cars) in them every day, so the per capita statistics skew against all of those districts.I was going to mention that too, as well as the division stats bunching fairly low crime areas with high crime ones, which skews everything, an example being the Westside Division including both Sharpstown and the Galleria areas.We really need single nabe populations to match up with the first list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 We really need single nabe populations to match up with the first list.Agreed. There are several sites the list crime risk (adjusted for population) for specific zip codes. That avoids different definitions of neighborhood boundaries, but it still doesn't handle the non-resident impact on crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I was going to mention that too, as well as the division stats bunching fairly low crime areas with high crime ones, which skews everything, an example being the Westside Division including both Sharpstown and the Galleria areas.I was thinking the same thing. I noticed my 'hood which is near Rice was lumped together with the entire 3rd ward. Those two neighborhoods are like two different worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Agreed. There are several sites the list crime risk (adjusted for population) for specific zip codes. That avoids different definitions of neighborhood boundaries, but it still doesn't handle the non-resident impact on crime.That sounds useful. Can you give us some links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 That sounds useful. Can you give us some links?I will when I get home. I found out about them from The HAIF (notice the capitalized 'T'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 There's just something nice about having a cop car parked in front of your house with binoculors that makes you feel safe. Kind of like that nice fuzzy feeling. I was serious when I told them I wish they would always park there even for breaks. This is a good thing trust me. Quite serious. It has become way better than it was about 7 years ago. Clean house they do well. Responses are much faster too. Since its a long running joke about cops hanging around donuts shops, a new one nearby would be A-ok with us. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 That sounds useful. Can you give us some links?Here's one of them: Relocation Essentials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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