caevans3 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Here is a link to the articleHardy Extension LinkThis is interesting due to "The Woolands" providing some funding along with the Union Pacific Line being moved as well as some other items. Should be positive overall for traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Guess the fact that some of the areas on the northside between 610 and Downtown are not so prestigious and outspoken will allow TXDot to build the extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 The Elysian Viaduct is the bigger challenge. Both it and 59 back up as they enter downtown. La Branch is a mess and 59 dead-ends into MMP. I wonder how they will handle that?The change in lights has made it worse, even when the lights are in sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think this is good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Guess the fact that some of the areas on the northside between 610 and Downtown are not so prestigious and outspoken will allow TXDot to build the extension.1) HCTRA will build the extension, not TxDOT.2) Since they aren't using federal funds, there are fewer politicians who can hold the project hostage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 The Elysian Viaduct is the bigger challenge. Both it and 59 back up as they enter downtown. La Branch is a mess and 59 dead-ends into MMP. I wonder how they will handle that?The change in lights has made it worse, even when the lights are in sync.Aren't there already stub-outs for the new Hardy ramps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Aren't there already stub-outs for the new Hardy ramps?I dunno. But according to what I read there will have to be a train track that gets moved and that will take the majority of the time.I'm just glad to hear this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) The Elysian Viaduct is the bigger challenge. Both it and 59 back up as they enter downtown. La Branch is a mess and 59 dead-ends into MMP. I wonder how they will handle that?The change in lights has made it worse, even when the lights are in sync.They'll build it with an onramp of death, like they did WPT. They never fixed the problem at Chimney Rock because I still see cars trying not to collide with one another in that very short segment.Basically any traffic problem not directly on one of their roads is not considered their problem. Edited December 7, 2007 by westguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 2) Since they aren't using federal funds, there are fewer politicians who can hold the project hostage.As we've seen with light rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Let's just get the thing built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirous Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The Elysian Viaduct is the bigger challenge. Both it and 59 back up as they enter downtown. La Branch is a mess and 59 dead-ends into MMP. I wonder how they will handle that?59 backs up due to the atrocious merge with 45 past downtown, and because of inadequate capacity between 288 and Spur 527. Downtown isn't the problem at all.The change in lights has made it worse, even when the lights are in sync.They could always add a ramp, e.g. to Commerce or Caroline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Here is a link to the articleHardy Extension LinkThis is interesting due to "The Woolands" providing some funding along with the Union Pacific Line being moved as well as some other items. Should be positive overall for traffic.Ugh. Some day the Chronicle will realize that stories about highways and traffic should have MAPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Such simple web tools they could employ to make the stories more readable. Also adding in-line links would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Ugh. Some day the Chronicle will realize that stories about highways and traffic should have MAPS!Exactly.I checked Google Earth to get a guess of where this thing will go. Based on what they said, it appears they left space for this to get built for a very long time. Most of the space along the west side of this train track is open, so I guess that's where the Hardy Toll Road will go. The businesses it appears to impact are industrial/warehouse businesses along 1-45/more train tracks. I'll provide a picture if anyone is curious about what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Exactly.I checked Google Earth to get a guess of where this thing will go. Based on what they said, it appears they left space for this to get built for a very long time. Most of the space along the west side of this train track is open, so I guess that's where the Hardy Toll Road will go. The businesses it appears to impact are industrial/warehouse businesses along 1-45/more train tracks. I'll provide a picture if anyone is curious about what I'm talking about.Yes, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) Okay, here's the best I could do... the red areas are where I think the Hardy Toll Road could go... Each picture is about a block off: Edited December 8, 2007 by Triton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The businesses it appears to impact are industrial/warehouse businesses along 1-45/more train tracks.it doesn't go near I-45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 it doesn't go near I-45 errr... I meant 1-10/Highway 59. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Isn't it supposed to end very close to 59 north of Minute Maid? I saw that a while back and thought it was an odd configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Isn't it supposed to end very close to 59 north of Minute Maid? I saw that a while back and thought it was an odd configuration.The article said west of Highway 59, so I'm guessing it will connect to 1-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 59 backs up due to the atrocious merge with 45 past downtown, and because of inadequate capacity between 288 and Spur 527. Downtown isn't the problem at all.I think you need a map. I see it everyday. And the backup starts in downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Far be it from me to defend the Chronicle. But there actually is a map link in the story. (It's not very detailed, but it gives a decent idea of where it will run)Also, the story said:"Vehicles headed downtown will be able to exit onto U.S. 59 east of downtown, and then take the Hamilton exit into downtown, said Mike Perez, who is heading the project for the toll road authority.Another exit will be built eventually, going along the Elysian Viaduct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Too bad we can't have a commuter line running down those UP tracks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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