Bassclef Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Hopefully the tower will not get shorter and shorter until the project completely disappears. Edited January 5, 2021 by Bassclef 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Wow! Sexy AF 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) ^^^ maybe it's just me, but this latest particular mcnair project design... although, quite majestic and stately in appearance... offers no grace/vitality/momentum, like the beautiful/striking previous design. in fact, this particular rendering reminds me of the above ^^^ christmas nutcracker. stately... majestic... uniformed... completely at attention. yet, it seems to be yearning/screaming for the nearest walnut to crack. i am trying desperately to fall in love with this newest rendition. maybe it's because of it's priceless location, or it's gorgeous height/scope/scale. IT NEEDS TO BE UTTERLY MAGNIFICENT! however, it also requires a bit of warmth and poshness with its proximity to the galleria and uptown's famous waterfall. maybe, it shall grow on me... Edited January 5, 2021 by monarch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Glad it is keeping the height. Looks like one of the towers is gone, at least in this phase, from the original release. I liked how the first tower was a little offset as well. Seems like they got rid of that, similar to The Allen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Wow, even though the total number of towers looks like it has dropped from 3 to 2, I love this design over the original. Fingers crossed that height doesn't get slashed down the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Any idea when groundbreaking is scheduled? One other question of a trivial nature. When a building is mixed use which I understand means residential/office/ and commercial I suppose it cannot be classified as residential or office. Is the classification based on the percentage use? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 9 hours ago, monarch said: ^^^ maybe it's just me, but this latest particular mcnair project design... although, quite majestic and stately in appearance... offers no grace/vitality/momentum, like the beautiful/striking previous design. You’re not alone @monarch I too prefer the previous design as it appeared to be more sophisticated and upscale. This one is nice as well; reminds me of something you’d see in Dallas. Nevertheless, good to see the project is moving forward. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Resident Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I do not see an update other than the picture. Was there some kind of announcement about this or link? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Twinsanity02 said: Any idea when groundbreaking is scheduled? One other question of a trivial nature. When a building is mixed use which I understand means residential/office/ and commercial I suppose it cannot be classified as residential or office. Is the classification based on the percentage use? What do you mean by "classified as residential or office"? Do you mean building codes, or what? Zoning doesn't apply here of course... Parking requirements? Given the location, I believe they are zero regardless of use. Edited January 5, 2021 by Texasota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Texasota said: What do you mean by "classified as residential or office"? Do you mean building codes, or what? Zoning doesn't apply here of course... Parking requirements? Given the location, I believe they are zero regardless of use. I'm referring to a colloquial classification ( if one exists) for mixed use buildings. I suspect there isn't one but seeing if anyone knows for certain. As for parking requirements, didn't mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Yeah I threw that in as something that could be impacted by use classification because I didn't really understand what you were looking for. I think colloquially most people would refer to a building by whatever the primary use is. So an apartment building with retail is still an apartment building. If it's an even split, or if the secondary use is particularly prominent? It probably depends on the individual building. Is the new Midtown apartment building with a Whole Foods an apartment building, or is it the Midtown Whole Foods? Does it vary depending on the city in question's recent history (or lack) of mixed use buildings? What about traditional, small-scale mixed use, like a two-story building with a storefront on the ground floor and residential on the second floor? Is the term "mixed use" itself a borderline meaningless descriptor for returning to a more traditional building pattern that begins to heal the damage done by American-style Euclidean zoning? (...yes...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 my brain right now: 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermh Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Is SOM still the architect on this one? It's not listed on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Urbannizer said: You’re not alone @monarch I too prefer the previous design as it appeared to be more sophisticated and upscale. This one is nice as well; reminds me of something you’d see in Dallas. Nevertheless, good to see the project is moving forward. If this were in Dallas it would be half as tall. Don't forget, they haven't built an office building over 25 stories since the 1980's. The Pepto-Bismol-colored Galleria Financial Center was the last time they soared to 26 stories, and to find something this tall, you'd have to go back to Cityplace. Downtown Austin might be a better comparison with the hotel stacked on top of office. Never mind, didn't realize the taller building had no office. Edited January 6, 2021 by H-Town Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I think the Post Oak Hotel has office space inside I think I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Big E said: So, if I'm reading this right, there is still a third structure, its just behind the tallest building. Sort of. . . The “10 story building” in back is a parking garage with a ballroom on the top floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wxman Posted January 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 54 STORIES! Wow, looks like Transco finally has a baby brother on the way... At 750 feet, it should be almost the exact same height as 609 Main and Texaco Heritage Plaza. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I am happy that Williams Tower will finally have a friend 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassclef Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Do you all really think this is going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Bassclef said: Do you all really think this is going to happen? Yep. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Montrose1100 Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 9:29 PM, wxman said: 54 STORIES! Wow, looks like Transco finally has a baby brother on the way... At 750 feet, it should be almost the exact same height as 609 Main and Texaco Heritage Plaza. It should be the 8th tallest behind 1100 Louisiana, and pushing CenterPoint Energy to #9. A real stand out structure close to the Williams Tower and the west side in general. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 What goes into a total design change like this?? I guess rule of thumb is it’s alway about the money, but without knowing anything about anything it doesn’t look like this is “cheaper” to me. really wish they would have stuck with the original design. This to me look more office than a stylish hotel. At least it’s tall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Montrose1100 said: It should be the 8th tallest behind 1100 Louisiana, and pushing CenterPoint Energy to #9. A real stand out structure close to the Williams Tower and the west side in general. [EDIT: Never mind... I see you used Wikipedia numbers]: Looking at Emporis, it seems it would be tied with 609 Main for 7th tallest. Did Emporis leave something off the list (which they have been known to do)? According to Emporis: 600 Travis 1,002 Wells Fargo Plaza 992 Williams Tower 901 TC Energy Center 780 Heritage Plaza 762 Enterprise Plaza (1100 Louisiana) 756 609 Main / McNair Rosewood Hotel 752 FWIW, per Wikipedia: 600 Travis 1,002 Wells Fargo Plaza 992 Williams Tower 901 TC Energy Center 780 Heritage Plaza 762 609 Main 757 Enteprise Plaza 756 McNair Rosewood Hotel 752 I wonder why the 5-foot discrepancy for 609 Main Edited January 7, 2021 by Houston19514 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Tallest residential towers in Texas: 1. 6X Guadalupe, Austin, 848' 2. McNair Plaza, Houston, 750' 3. The Independent, Austin, 694' 4. The Austonian, Austin, 683' 5. Gables Republic Tower, Dallas, 602' 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 —— Incorrect info 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Urbannizer said: This would to take the title as the tallest all residential tower west of the Mississippi. 6X Guadalupe has an office component. Unless that 58 story tower (musueo plaza) in the museum district gets under way. Got a feeling that might hit close to 800. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 5:13 PM, Urbannizer said: This would to take the title as the tallest all residential tower west of the Mississippi. 6X Guadalupe has an office component. The Hotel/Rosewood portion is included in "Residential"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 10:29 AM, Montrose1100 said: The Hotel/Rosewood portion is included in "Residential"? Whoopsie I missed that portion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacarlson Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I sure hope this happens! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Triton Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 I wonder if we are in the midst of a mild building boom because all these developers are taking advantage of the massive stimulus injection due to Covid... as in, lower interest rates in financing these types of projects. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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