RedScare Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 The Jury Assembly Room and Plaza will begin construction as soon as the additional parking to the Harris County Parking Gargae is finished. This is already funded, but since they are taking out a block of parking, they want the parking garage finished first.I don't think they need another block of open space, since the plaza across the street will provide open space. I'd rather see the County sell the block. An office building across the street from every county courthouse would lease well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 The Jury Assembly Room and Plaza will begin construction as soon as the additional parking to the Harris County Parking Gargae is finished. This is already funded, but since they are taking out a block of parking, they want the parking garage finished first.I don't think they need another block of open space, since the plaza across the street will provide open space. I'd rather see the County sell the block. An office building across the street from every county courthouse would lease well. aw red, I don't know, I kinda' like the thought of a plaza being there.....and we can call it "Justice Square." I agree, a building would be nice, though. People would slit their wrists once construction starts, though. Traffic is a constant nightmare there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 No, ricco, I like the planned plaza shown above. They are talking of demolishing the Family Courts Building across the street, and making another plaza. I don't think they need two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I very much agree. To me, one of the best things that could be done to enhance Houston's architectural reputation wouldn't be to light the Courts building up, it would be to wrap it in a big tarp and hope nobody notices. That building might be appropriate in, say, Des Moines or Boise, but no city hoping to be viewed as "world class" would ever design such second-rate kitsch for a major public building. It's such an embarrassment. I was sitting in the ballpark the other day and looking out at it. I think it actually looks pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 No, ricco, I like the planned plaza shown above. They are talking of demolishing the Family Courts Building across the street, and making another plaza. I don't think they need two of them.Oh, my mistake. The Family courts building is....interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing a more modern building in its place, but it's SO distinctive...<gesture>Eh. </gesture> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houstonian in Iraq Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 No, ricco, I like the planned plaza shown above. They are talking of demolishing the Family Courts Building across the street, and making another plaza. I don't think they need two of them.Two plazas across from each other is over doing it.I wouldn't mind seeing a new Federal courthouse being built there. Then raze the old one in the "theater district"and add some sort of entertainment venue in it's place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I was sitting in the ballpark the other day and looking out at it. I think it actually looks pretty good.Bah. I still think it belongs in Des Moines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 No, ricco, I like the planned plaza shown above. They are talking of demolishing the Family Courts Building across the street, and making another plaza.Not the Family Courts Building! I actually enjoy its design (that is, if I'm thinking of the same building..). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Bah. I still think it belongs in Des Moines. Well, thanks for that update 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) The Family Law Center not an aesthetic masterpiece, certainly. The big problem for the County, though, was cost. It was going to cost almost as much to rehab the Family Law Center as it would to replace it. The major problem is that the whole thing is built of poured concrete (interior walls included).Per Houstonian in Iraq's observation, I think the plan is to have the new federal courthouse over by the other federal buildings near 2 Houston Center. However, the buzz on this is a bit old. I believe GSA is budgeting site and design for Houston in FY 2009. There was an old thread on this. Has anybody heard anything else on this lately? Edited June 21, 2007 by Porchman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T 2 THA C Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 The new Criminal Justice Center is real nice and offers some good veiws of DT from the higher floors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Bah. I still think it belongs in Des Moines. I wonder what the Des Moinians would think if they got a courthouse with giant lone stars on each side. Just speculating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I wonder what the Des Moinians would think if they got a courthouse with giant lone stars on each side. Just speculating. Maybe they could be replaced with carved ears of corn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjones98 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Is anyone else disappointed that Civil Courthouse has no exterior lighting? The dome, at the very least, just screams to be light up at night.I think it is a missed opportunity to enhance the night skyline, especially from Minute Maid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Is anyone else disappointed that Civil Courthouse has no exterior lighting? The dome, at the very least, just screams to be light up at night.I think it is a missed opportunity to enhance the night skyline, especially from Minute Maid.Maybe we should start a thread on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 http://www.pspaec.com/ The new Jury Assembly Room and Transportation Plaza project will be the centerpiece for the recently consolidated Harris County Courts complex. Four 250-seat jury assembly rooms will feed civil, criminal, juvenile and family courts. The unique organization of the facility preserves the site as a public park. It also organizes the program inside a secure perimeter as the entry pavilion will be a security check point. Once inside, the assembly space is connected via tunnel to the courts on neighboring blocks. After hours, the space will be available to the public for approved activities. The site also plays a key role in the greater urban design strategies of downtown Houston, linking historic green squares, bus routes, bike routes and the expanding green necklace of bayou park space. Completion: 2009 Anyone know the status of this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 So they gave up on the original design with the star-shaped fountain in the center. It's an improvement over the surface parking, but I would rather the facility were on the corner than in the middle of the green space. It looks a bit lost the way it is laid out. Just by reading the language in the blurb you can tell that reporting for jury duty there will be an unpleasant process, what with the "organized program in a secure perimeter" and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 So they gave up on the original design with the star-shaped fountain in the center. Thank God!!!!Just by reading the language in the blurb you can tell that reporting for jury duty there will be an unpleasant process, what with the "organized program in a secure perimeter" and all.Compared to what it is today? Not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) Starting at 5a.m., one of the biggest surface lots in the area will disappear so construction can start on a new underground jury assembly room. The new assembly room will increase security, provide more room capacity and give potential jurors underground access to the courts.***Construction will take 18 to 24 months. A park will be constructed above the new jury assembly room.Khou Edited August 2, 2009 by UpuPUp! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Khou Great news!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Very neat. Of course, I'm in favor of pretty much anything that isn't surface parking. And as someone who was called for jury duty in Harris County six times, I can say the current facility can use some improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Very neat. Of course, I'm in favor of pretty much anything that isn't surface parking. And as someone who was called for jury duty in Harris County six times, I can say the current facility can use some improvement.Considering the part of town, I wonder exactly what the plaza is going to be like. Would be nice if they allow street vendors there. Would be a much better option than people going to that damned convenience store on commerce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So they gave up on the original design with the star-shaped fountain in the center. It's an improvement over the surface parking, but I would rather the facility were on the corner than in the middle of the green space. It looks a bit lost the way it is laid out. Just by reading the language in the blurb you can tell that reporting for jury duty there will be an unpleasant process, what with the "organized program in a secure perimeter" and all. As the Editor mentioned, you should have tried jury duty in the old assembly room. You report underground, just like the new assembly room, but in another building. Once you are assigned to a court, you go back upstairs and outside to go to your court. You are following the court's deputy, so you better not fall behind. Once at the courthouse, you must go through security with everyone else. Depending on the time, this can cause HUGE jams at the metal detectors as upwards of 60 potential jurors per court try to get through security. The new assembly room is also underground. Only the lobby and staircase and elevators are in that ground level building. I am sure they will also have metal detectors in that lobby. What is so great about this setup is that previous courthouse construction installed tunnels to this block. Once a juror goes through security in the lobby, he or she is free to go to any courthouse through the tunnels without going through security again. This is great for the jurors and fantastic for the poor schmucks who get caught behind them now at the metal detectors. There is also a tunnel to the county parking garage 2 blocks to the east. During inclement weather, a juror can leave his umbrella in the car and take the tunnel to the assembly room, then take the tunnel to court, and even take the tunnel to one of the 4 underground cafeterias in the county complex. The jury assembly room is the hub of the courthouse complex. It is one block from all 5 courthouses, and will make jury duty easier on both the jurors and the judges, bailiffs, attorneys and court participants. Maybe now the jurors won't show up for duty as angry, and people can have a shot at a decent trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Very neat. Of course, I'm in favor of pretty much anything that isn't surface parking. More trees downtown, and 1 parking lot eliminated. I'd prefer a building or tower, but this is the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Another parking lot eats the dust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) Very neat. Of course, I'm in favor of pretty much anything that isn't surface parking. And as someone who was called for jury duty in Harris County six times, I can say the current facility can use some improvement.I dunno, it seemed fine to me. Show up, giant amphitheater to sit in and wait, tunnel access to the other courts you get farmed out to...Edit: The jury assembly room I reported to was on ground level. Edited August 3, 2009 by kylejack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Considering the part of town, I wonder exactly what the plaza is going to be like. Would be nice if they allow street vendors there. Would be a much better option than people going to that damned convenience store on commerce.Well... considering that part of town... just dont hang out there after sundown, let me tell ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Well... considering that part of town... just dont hang out there after sundown, let me tell ya.Umm....and why WOULD anyone hang out after sundown, unless you're a cop.The place is a ghost town at 6pm, unless it's a game day over at MMP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I dunno, it seemed fine to me. Show up, giant amphitheater to sit in and wait, tunnel access to the other courts you get farmed out to...Edit: The jury assembly room I reported to was on ground level.Hmmm...wonder which jury assembly you showed up to. The current one is in the basement of Congress Plaza Building. And, while it is technically possible to take the tunnels to the courts, it is a circuitous route that entails walking south one block before walking north to get to the courthouses, as well as many twists and turns. What is a 2 block walk on the street becomes 4 blocks underground. The new assembly room will be roughly 1/2 block block to all 4 courthouses. Additionally, moving the jury assembly will allow the building to be sold or repurposed, and will provide vastly upgraded facilities for jurors and staff. The work areas for the staff are in poor shape. And, there is still the problem of swamping the security checkpoints with jurors. This is a daily problem that can only be addressed by having another checkpoint for the jurors. There are over 40 district courts and over 20 county courts. The jury panel for a district court is often 60 people, for county courts, 24 people. It doesn't take too many of these courts asking for jury panels at the same time (say, on a Monday morning) to cause gridlock in the lobby of the courthouse.But, I admit, a juror who only gets called to serve once every several years can handle the current setup. This is more for the staff and courts to work more efficiently, and to complete a comprehensive courthouse complex that serves 4 million residents than to save a juror 3 blocks of walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I think I reported to 1019 Congress, Google Maps streetview seems to confirm. Then they put us in a big amphitheater, just to the right about 50 feet inside the doors. As jury pools were assembled for each court, groups of 30 or so would be pulled from this mass pool and taken downstairs to other staging rooms and then to courts. I never got pulled for a pool so they cut me loose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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