monarch Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 outstanding pics hindesky! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) No. I just spoke with Marlon about this recently, he said they (The Midtown Redevelopment Authority) are building the underground garage, which will take about a year, then shortly after that Camden will begin construction of the apartments. You can call him and ask yourself. 713-526-7577 The sign posted at the construction site makes it look like Camden is indeed building the parking garage. Edited April 6, 2015 by Houston19514 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yeah but two years for a garage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yeah but two years for a garage? They're subcontracting it from the Block 334 guys 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 They're subcontracting it from the Block 334 guysAnd we have a winner ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) http://m.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2015/05/01/amid-low-oil-prices-camden-puts-brakes-on-houston.html?r=fullCamden has deliberately slowed work on Camden McGowen Station in hopes that construction costs will come down, Campo said. Camden plans to begin vertical construction on the apartment this fall, he said. Edited May 2, 2015 by tigereye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 http://m.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2015/05/01/amid-low-oil-prices-camden-puts-brakes-on-houston.html?r=full Signs at the site say "McGowen Station Parking Garage", so this sounds about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 This makes me so angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the park itself? What happens there? Is the park moving foward just not the apartments? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 What Campo needs I think is to have the leasing activity of a boom and the construction costs of a bust. That is his magic formula. I doubt he would be building this at all if it weren't for his Latin wife screaming at him every evening, "If you do not start on this edificio, you are not a man!" Okay, I made the last part up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) What Campo needs I think is to have the leasing activity of a boom and the construction costs of a bust. That is his magic formula.Unfortunately I think you're right in assuming Campo has extremely unrealistic expectations..And yeah, what jcuervez(?) asked.. Will the park at least be moving forward? Edited May 3, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 So the park itself? What happens there? Is the park moving foward just not the apartments?The read I get on things is unlike Camden Conte, McGowen Station Apartments will move forward. The delay is obviously to allow for the garage to be built first, then the apartment building atop, a la Block 334. As for the Park, IIRC that's a Midtown Management District project (not Camden's) that is happening in conjunction with the apartments on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yeah it's def not Camden doing the park. So if the apartments don't move forward after the garage is built, the park won't move forward either?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yeah it's def not Camden doing the park. So if the apartments don't move forward after the garage is built, the park won't move forward either??Not certain where everyone is getting the vibe of the apartments aren't moving forward. Campo himself is saying vertical construction on the apartment building will begin this fall. The garage is the foundation for the apartment building and has to be constructed first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 no. Campo said he HOPED to start vertical construction this fall. assuming construction costs come down..and last i checked the underground garage a public amenity for the park, not just for Camden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 no. Campo said he HOPED to start vertical construction this fall. assuming construction costs come down..and last i checked the underground garage a public amenity for the park, not just for Camden...I get that the article says he's deliberately slowed McGowen Station's construction but I take this is also speaking in past tense. IIRC, McGowen Station site work including garage was supposed to start last December. Construction has already been delayed, even on the garage. As for the garage, it's an amenity large enough to hand both park and apartment capacity. The mere fact that it's under construction to me means the apartments will happen at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 well yeah, I'm not doubting Campo will eventually build the apartments, he's had the land for how many years? its just a matter of if he just pissed away another perfectly good opportunity to build it and we have to wait for however many more years until something happens at this prime site in the middle of midtown... hopefully not, but his track record as of late hasn't been very good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 http://m.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2015/05/01/amid-low-oil-prices-camden-puts-brakes-on-houston.html?r=fullYeah right. How is that going to be possible when the garage is gonna take TWO YEARS, and the apartments are going ABOVE THE GARAGE. I loathe this creep so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) thanks Howard.. i forgot about that timeline. Edited May 3, 2015 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) September 18th, 2017 is when the garage will be finished according to the sign. Edited May 3, 2015 by Howard Huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 September 18th, 2017 is when the garage will be finished according to the sign. Isn't that just a worst case scenario date? I am not sure... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Do you honestly think in a "best case scenario", that the 2 year timetable they sat aside for the garage could be completed in 3-4 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 No one in their right mind thinks it would take 2 years for a garage...this is clearly a permit for the garage and apartments. It's easier to apply for the permit and then go back and revise t to add things later... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 so they are calling the apartments "McGowen Station Parking Garage"..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 i agree, it shouldn't take anywhere near 2 years to build. but i doubt they will have the garage portion completed in 3-4 months. it took forever to build the garage for Block 334, and Broadstone Skyline(?) has been a big hole for quite some time now too.. and those are only 1 block sites. the superblock is 4 times the size (not sure if the garage is going the full length though?), so i don't see how Campo could start construction this fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 No one in their right mind thinks it would take 2 years for a garage...this is clearly a permit for the garage and apartments. It's easier to apply for the permit and then go back and revise t to add things later...My thoughts exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 i agree, it shouldn't take anywhere near 2 years to build. but i doubt they will have the garage portion completed in 3-4 months. it took forever to build the garage for Block 334, and Broadstone Skyline(?) has been a big hole for quite some time now too.. and those are only 1 block sites. the superblock is 4 times the size (not sure if the garage is going the full length though?), so i don't see how Campo could start construction this fall. That's not fair to compare this to Block 334...c'mon that's like the biggest extreme of an exception I'm saying that it's possible to say this project will take 2 years on a permit, then revise it later on when the market is right (which it looks like it will be soon) to revise the permit. Besides, this is only a Construction Eco permit, which is basically saying they won't spill contaminants into the water supply while construction is ongoing. It's not a very "important" permit in the grand scheme of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Ah cool, didn't even consider what type of permit it was. Hopefully they are still following through with that Chron article on the last page that says the park will be open in 2016. That's all I'm really worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm not sure I understand why we're worried the apartments won't be built. If the underground garage and the park get built but the apartments die, isn't that the best of all possibilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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