sevfiv Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Well, looks like Sagemont beat em to it - 170 ft cross (originally to be 190 ft) is at the corner of 45 and 8. In the article, Booth was quoted as well: "With all these billboards and adult entertainment places out here, we at Grace Community decided a cross would be perfect for Houstonians," Pastor Garrett Booth said. http://www.click2houston.com/news/18695333/detail.html#- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 So we will have two crosses now. The 150 ft. one and the existing 170 ft. one within eye's reach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Well there's something I'd like to know. Could you tell me, would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Wow, so there are things getting built in Houston! I think we can solve the Houston Pavillions problem. Offer a sweet deal to one of the mega churches, and await the flood of people on the weekends. That'll motivate the retail and restaurants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think we can solve the Houston Pavillions problem. Offer a sweet deal to one of the mega churches, and await the flood of people on the weekends. That'll motivate the retail and restaurants!Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 That was meant to be tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness, there are probably tens of thousands more people who will go to a mega church than go to high-concept club and drink $18 martinis. And then after church, they'll want to eat. And even poor Lidz can get in the game by doing customized mega-church lidz! A win-win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Lids, I have an idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) this was on beltway 8, just west of the gulf freeway (across from kroger). Edited February 12, 2009 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Could we please dismantle this visual blight with the billboard ordinances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I don't mind the visual blight. Monuments to things are interesting. What bothers me is that this church decided that it was better to spend tons of money on this rather than feeding or clothing some poor people. Let's me know what that group is really all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Well, looks like Sagemont beat em to it - 170 ft cross (originally to be 190 ft) is at the corner of 45 and 8.In the article, Booth was quoted as well: "With all these billboards and adult entertainment places out here, we at Grace Community decided a cross would be perfect for Houstonians," Pastor Garrett Booth said. http://www.click2houston.com/news/18695333/detail.html#- Oh my. The renderings early in this topic included a kind of visitors pavilion and giant globe at the base! Where'd they go? These things really do need observation platforms on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Oh my. The renderings early in this topic included a kind of visitors pavilion and giant globe at the base! Where'd they go? These things really do need observation platforms on top. This is a DIFFERENT church with a DIFFERENT cross. Grace still wants to build their TWO crosses...no doubt taller than 170 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I bet from an airplane we'll look like a gigantic graveyard with all these crosses sticking out of the ground. Just beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 This is a DIFFERENT church with a DIFFERENT cross. Grace still wants to build their TWO crosses...no doubt taller than 170 feet.Their are going to be 150' tall, unless they want to be petty and change plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I don't mind the visual blight. Monuments to things are interesting. What bothers me is that this church decided that it was better to spend tons of money on this rather than feeding or clothing some poor people. Let's me know what that group is really all about.Because it's a business. A tax free one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Church with the tallest crosses gets into Heaven first, I'm pretty sure this is spelled out in the book of Luke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Their are going to be 150' tall, unless they want to be petty and change plans.So how tall do you think they will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyEye Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 article from today's chron This is a joke right???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Neo-kitsch I'm thinking "the giant cross against the city, the mega church against the world..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Every Christmas they need to nail a giant plaster Jesus with a pained look on his face to the cross with some fountain effects squirting fake blood on the masses below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 the issue of huge crosses to "mark" houston for jesus cracks me up. in the early eighties i was at oral roberts university. there were tv evangelists sending out crosses as a "point of contact" a "reminder" of who you were. many of these ministries were built by good people with small world views. i'm reminded of a couple songs by daniel amos, a subversive christian band who railed against "symbolism over substance" and the inherent narcissism in most christian ministries through satire.building huge crosses is about advertising how "christian" grace community church is rather than actual ministry. not much has changed (since the eighties) for many of these folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I drove by the Sagemont cross last night... I don't think it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Every Christmas they need to nail a giant plaster Jesus with a pained look on his face to the cross with some fountain effects squirting fake blood on the masses below.Regardless of whether you like the crosses, that statement is just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Regardless of whether you like the crosses, that statement is just wrong.sorry, i must disagree. if the christian community wants to cheapen their faith by ridiculous symbols over substance, ridicule and cheap shots should be expected. like begets like. cheesy crosses require ugly responses. if god's work is nothing more than a symbol of "marked territory", no one should be amazed that people of little faith disregard these "symbols". good intentions are not action. building a symbol of christ's death does nothing for the person dying of cancer or losing their career. loving one's neighbor as one loves their own family does more for the soul than a hundred big ass crosses. work where you are. love those near to you. quit building pagan symbols that have nothing to do with real spirituality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) sorry, i must disagree. if the christian community wants to cheapen their faith by ridiculous symbols over substance, ridicule and cheap shots should be expected. like begets like. cheesy crosses require ugly responses. if god's work is nothing more than a symbol of "marked territory", no one should be amazed that people of little faith disregard these "symbols". good intentions are not action. building a symbol of christ's death does nothing for the person dying of cancer or losing their career. loving one's neighbor as one loves their own family does more for the soul than a hundred big ass crosses. stupid, dumb ass, christians. work where you are. love those near to you. quit building pagan symbols that have nothing to do with real spirituality. This used to be my line of reasoning... until I drove by it. They built it in a day (or two at most), quickly. And probably didn't spend that much, compared to their budget, to build it. Had it taken months of slave labor, building to the sky a monument of stone, hand chiseled, so high that airplanes flying into Hobby were forced to fly around it... you could argue many of your points. But they built it in a day, using inexpensive methods/materials. And it looks better than the AMC 30. I don't know what else to say. It "goes" with their church. My disagreement with Christianity is not so much the symbols of it... but the teachings/beliefs/blind/ignorant followers hypocritical leaders. That's where the problem is, for many (not all) Christian denominations. Kinda like this man: Look familiar? You've probably seen him on TV. His 29-year old son was caught in a have-sex-in-the-park police sting, up in Dallas. http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_10636.php. Not that I agree with those entrapment stings... but anyway... Edited February 16, 2009 by BryanS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 But they built it in a day, using inexpensive methods/materials. And it looks better than the AMC 30. I don't know what else to say. It "goes" with their church.Thou shalt construct for me an idol to My Greatness, and thou shalt ensure that it rivals the greatness of the local cineplexes. The comparative height of thy idol to local businesses shall determine thy rank in Heaven. I sent my Son to Earth to live in poverty and preach My message that thou might learn My lessons and construct decadent monuments to My Greatness. Remember, much like taking the punishment for your sin the Son practiced humility so that you don't have to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 This used to be my line of reasoning... until I drove by it. They built it in a day (or two at most), quickly. And probably didn't spend that much, compared to their budget, to build it. Had it taken months of slave labor, building to the sky a monument of stone, hand chiseled, so high that airplanes flying into Hobby were forced to fly around it... you could argue many of your points.But they built it in a day, using inexpensive methods/materials. And it looks better than the AMC 30. I don't know what else to say. It "goes" with their church.The cheapness of the monument makes it OK? Is this what happens to one's logic when they've bought one too many cheap plastic items from Walmart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The cheapness of the monument makes it OK? Is this what happens to one's logic when they've bought one too many cheap plastic items from Walmart?There's a difference between cheap and inexpensive. I didn't say cheap. I said inexpensive. Target has inexpensive items. Wal-mart has cheap items.It would be hard for them to defend spending millions of dollars on a monument and not supporting charities, and giving, helping heal the world, etc. They're still doing that... and had enough left over to build a cross for their church.Also... even though 170 to 200 feet seems "big" ... not as big as you think. As I said, it would be different story had they made it out of granite, towering 500 feet into the air, forcing air traffic diversions... but that's not what they did...Drive by it. I did. I told myself: "I'm supposed to be angry at this! .... " but I just didn't feel anger. I don't know what else to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Good to know that the world's poverty, hunger, pain and suffering has been alleviated, leaving funds available to build an inexpensive idol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 it was part of the spendulus package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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