fuzz Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 does the article say how many years it will take to complete? 7 yrs? Is that on the slow side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzseattle Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I understand the concern over not having developments in downtown & midtown, but what I don't understand is why one would curse this developer for building around their already existing developments?Midtown & Downtown will get their turn, and when they do - ALL will be envious. I'm sure of it. We just need to wait until the time is right for the best development for those areas to come in and take shape.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree. This developer is simply expanding what is already there. Besides, what would we have there if the developers didnt build this? Strip malls? Usual big-box retailers? Parking lots? Vacant land? No, thank you. I would rather see some cool mixed-use developments like these. Now we would all like to see some exciting projects in midtown or downtown. However, while thats not happening, we can at least enjoy what's happening elsewhere. Besides, one thing is sure. This particular developer wasn't going to downtown anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Thank you! I'm not a big fan of ever expanding sprawl, but please, that area of the city has been heavily developed since the early 1960s!!I'm with you and don't like the sprawl happening out in the Katy area, etc. BUT, like you said, if people have a problem with "sprawl" this area, maybe they should've spoken up in the early 50s when neighborhoods were being developed. Memorial Bend, for example, is 50 years old ( Memorial Bend Development ). This area is anything but new - it is well-established and just as old as Meyerland, Braes Heights, Afton Oaks, Ayrshire, Tanglewood, etc. Warrenton and Whispering Oaks (SE corner of Gessner and Memorial Drive) were being built in 1952, three years before Meyerland. Warrenton Article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 does the article say how many years it will take to complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Actually, the 200 acres includes the mall itself, BUT, they still have ALOT of devlopment to do, including the construction of new buildings on the existing parking lot, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I just don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaga Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Can somebody post a pic of the rendering from the Chronicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I just don't understand.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I kind of get where you are coming from, but it is better than what is over there now. Of course this project would be nice in downtown, but the developer does not own any land in downtown, where land prices are through the roof. Plus there is not enough land in downtown or midtown for this huge of a development. Plus if this were in downtown, the project would probably be close to 1 billion or well over considering the price of land out there. I know you do not like sprawl, from reading some of your post on here, but it would be a nice place to visit, and it is not like it is in the suburbs or anyhting. We are talking not that far from the Galleria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I definite agree that this area is not sprawl. Maybe 50 years ago when the development first appeared there, but now it is much closer into the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trophy Property Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I just don't understand.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>The area is densly populated. Sure it is not Downtown (which is not densly populated) or Midtown, but this area is obviously ready for this type of development. The mall has transformed into probably the #2 Mall in the city and with a successfull malls come all the ancillary developmeny. OK, I have no real way to quantify Memorial City as the #2 mall in the city, but I can not think of a nicer mall with better tenants besdies the Galleria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzseattle Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The area is densly populated. Sure it is not Downtown (which is not densly populated) or Midtown, but this area is obviously ready for this type of development. The mall has transformed into probably the #2 Mall in the city and with a successfull malls come all the ancillary developmeny. OK, I have no real way to quantify Memorial City as the #2 mall in the city, but I can not think of a nicer mall with better tenants besdies the Galleria.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, actually, it is # 2 mall in terms of size/retail space. Indeed, it is the 17th largest malls in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trophy Property Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Well, actually, it is # 2 mall in terms of size/retail space. Indeed, it is the 17th largest malls in the nation.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wow, I had no idea. Do you have a list to share. I would be interested. Is The mall of America in Minnesota still the largest. What place is the Galleria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownswami Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The list as of 2004 is at the following with Memorial City #17 and the Galleria at #5. It looks like it is measuring the malls by Retail space and not total space so Mall of America is not actually #1 but #4.http://www.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/depts/amerst/MallsLarge.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trophy Property Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The list as of 2004 is at the following with Memorial City #17 and the Galleria at #5. It looks like it is measuring the malls by Retail space and not total space so Mall of America is not actually #1 but #4.http://www.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/depts/amerst/MallsLarge.htm<{POST_SNAPBACK}>What amazes me is the almost all the malls on this list are over 10 years old and most are over 20 and 30 years old. I guess they do not build them like they used to. Of oourse the Galleria has continued to grow and grow. It was probably less that 1 million SQ Ft when first constructed. Thanks for the list. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incurablygeek Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 So is this the same project (http://www.midwaycompanies.com/Projects/_/town_country.asp) discussed here or two adjacent projects, both mixed-use, lifestyle developments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incurablygeek Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 In close proximity, then. But, both are apparently mixed-use, new urban-style developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 What amazes me is the almost all the malls on this list are over 10 years old and most are over 20 and 30 years old.  I guess they do not build them like they used to. Of oourse the Galleria has continued to grow and grow.  It was probably less that 1 million SQ Ft when first constructed. Thanks for the list. Very interesting.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah..the Galleria was only 600,00 sq ft when it was first built. I read this on wikipedia (unless the article is wrong).Great news for the Memorial Area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Here is the rendering of the gateway tract on the corner of I-10 Gessner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Wow, good catch, TB. It seems the architecture would blend in with the existing area. I was concerned that they would try to forge yet another brick/stucco collaboration in there, like they tend to do with so many intown projects. I can't really say if I like the design as it stands now, as it's really just a drawing and a lot of the finite design detail is hard to digest but at the very least it looks like a break from the other mixed-used projects that are on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trophy Property Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Wow, good catch, TB. It seems the architecture would blend in with the existing area. I was concerned that they would try to forge yet another brick/stucco collaboration in there, like they tend to do with so many intown projects. I can't really say if I like the design as it stands now, as it's really just a drawing and a lot of the finite design detail is hard to digest but at the very least it looks like a break from the other mixed-used projects that are on the table.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>The rendering looks like it includes a highrise office building, a midrise office (probably medical) and a midrise residential. I did not see any retail. They must be keeping the retail closer to the mall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 The rendering looks like it includes a highrise office building, a midrise office (probably medical) and a midrise residential.  I did not see any retail.  They must be keeping the retail closer to the mall.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>it may be retail on the bottom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I don't think much retail will happend in this portion of the development. It seems it will complement the hospital more. It may have some sort of food court for employees and visitors.I think most of the retail will be placed around the Mall area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I would be much happier if these restaurants were going on the bottom floor of buildings kind of like Farrago in midtown, but here is one of the eateries to go in the project. What do you think? Do you agree that it would look better if it were ground level below residential or office?Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Here is the rendering of the gateway tract on the corner of I-10 Gessner <{POST_SNAPBACK}> now I got a question: Is the $700 Memorial City Project and the Redevelopment of Town & Country the same project, or two different companies with a real estate war underway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 now I got a question: Is the $700 Memorial City Project and the Redevelopment of Town & Country the same project, or two different companies with a real estate war underway?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>two totally different projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 two totally different projects<{POST_SNAPBACK}>DDDDAAAAMMMMNNN!!! I was hoping you'd say that! Get yo' money ready folks!! I smell an investment hotspot! I think that may end up becoming the next Uptown in terms of businesss and architecture! And, um, retail. RECOGNIZE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YakuzaIce Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Is this up to the street? Also are all 2, 3? floors used for the restaurant?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>You're on the same page as I am, as far as both questions. I hope it is a yes for your first question, and a no for the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FonnVillas Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Thanks for the artist's rendering of the "gateway" at Memorial City, TB! Does the building at front right strike anybody else as a dedevelopment of the original Memorial City Hospital tower? I remember watching the remodeling of that building with much interest in the late 80's or early 90's. It appeared that the added floors and exterior facade were constructed independent of the existing structure... i.e., that the old interior and lower floors could be demolished without any impact on the newer shell and upper floors. It's purely speculation on my part, but it would seem to make good economic sense, especially since the lower floors of that building are all but vacant at this point. The area of the hospital complex immediately south of the old hospital tower is deteriorating and appears prepped for demolishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FonnVillas Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 The Memorial City and Town & Country are not the same project... MC is Metro National & Town & Country is Midway Companies. See artist renditions of Midway Companies' plan for T&C at http://www.midwaycompanies.com/Projects/_/town_country.asp . Both projects are within the boundaries of Memorial City TIRZ #17. Yep, that's the "blighted" area of Memorial (wink wink) that, but for your redirected tax dollars to save it, would have continued in a downward spiral of economic decline. http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/economic_dev/tirz.htmThe Memorial City Redevelopment Authority continues to promise a website (soon???) to keep you informed about its plans for your money. Beatty, Harvey & Associates is posting info and photos on their website about plans for a Majestic Seas Aquarium at Memorial City... http://www.bha-architects.com/markets/other.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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