crone Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hwy. 6. Spring has several schools that were omitted from your spreadsheet. That might account for the improvement at Westfield. It is not my intention to diss any message or messenger. All anybody wants is factual information instead of urban rumor. Any teacher who sees unacceptable behavior at any school needs to deal with it or get another job. That attitude comes from my 2 daughters, 2 nieces, 1 nephew. 1 sister and 1 brother in law who currently teach. Forest has needed to absorb many changes in the last 10 years. They are doing a good job at it, now. What do we do with the kids who can't test well on state test. Starve them? Drown them? In your quest for an excellent school in a low crime area you might want to consider moving to another state. Texas does not have a really good record compared to most other states. BTW, when the district offered open enrollment at the high schools a few years ago in order to equalize student population, not one kid left Forest to go to Collins or Oak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Hwy. 6. Spring has several schools that were omitted from your spreadsheet. It's my spreadsheet.. but not my data. I don't know why they chose to leave out some schools like Debakey in Spring, and The Woodlands. They also didnt include the Aldine district the first 2 years. Apparently they are still establishing the guidelines by which they put out their rankings every year.Some highschools I did omit, yes. My purpose was to only rank highschool zones. I don't know the criteria for getting into some of those charters and magnet schools, but its my understanding they are typically open to anyone in the ISD, so they serve no purpose for parents trying to decide which school zone to move into.Furthermore, I've seen enough local news special reports on suspect charter schools, that its hard to take schools like Yes you Can Academy and Alphonso Crutch's Life School serious.I just published the 2nd tab in the spread sheet that has the raw rankings for the 3 years. It includes all the magnet and charter schools, as well as some far outlying districts I just ignored.http://spreadsheets....Jog&output=htmlI know my comparative spreadsheet isn't perfect since some schools are left out. But of the schools that are on the list, their positions should be basically accurate relative to each other. Edited September 9, 2009 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) BTW, when the district offered open enrollment at the high schools a few years ago in order to equalize student population, not one kid left Forest to go to Collins or Oak.Why? Do parents not give a damn about their kid's safety or quality of education? Perhaps the kids were set and established at Forest. Klein is a top 15 school in the city. Why parents wouldnt jump on that opportunity to switch their students to Klein I can only write off as blissful ignorance or negligent apathy.I'm also guessing that zero students volunteered to move to Forest from their home zone. Maybe none have switched.. but thats not the same as incoming new high school students not opting for one of the better schools. Edited September 9, 2009 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Why? Do parents not give a damn about their kid's safety or quality of education? Perhaps the kids were set and established at Forest. Klein is a top 15 school in the city. Why parents wouldnt jump on that opportunity to switch their students to Klein I can only write off as blissful ignorance or negligent apathy.I'm also guessing that zero students volunteered to move to Forest from their home zone. Maybe none have switched.. but thats not the same as incoming new high school students not opting for one of the better schools.BTW: Klein Forest currently offers an International Business Academy magnet program that draws students from all of the middle schools -- even the ones that were zoned to Klein High. The students have to apply for the business academy and my impression is that they get some very talented students from all over the district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Any magnet program or school will draw those that are motivated and qualified. Every district has motivated and smart individuals with parents that care about their education. The fact that it is a program housed in an existing school instead of being a seperate entity is inconsequential, its still a magnet program.The rest of the KF student body does not benefit from the magnet program. Other zoned students arent flocking to KF for the sake of KF.Good for the Intl Business Magnet Program... but I don't see how that has any bearing on the typical zoned student in KISD or the quality of education for the typical, non-magnet program, student at KF. Edited September 9, 2009 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Other zoned students arent flocking to KF for the sake of KF.How do you know? Here are my personal statistics: I know several homeschool families whose children now go to Klein Forest; I know families whose kids would typically go to Klein Oak's IB program and are now at Klein Forest and love it; I know people who didn't move from the attendance zone because they've decided KF is just fine. Of course, these aren't official no.s.... just like your comment above is not supported by official no.s. either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 How do you know? Here are my personal statistics: I know several homeschool families whose children now go to Klein Forest; I know families whose kids would typically go to Klein Oak's IB program and are now at Klein Forest and love it; I know people who didn't move from the attendance zone because they've decided KF is just fine. Of course, these aren't official no.s.... just like your comment above is not supported by official no.s. either.Well.. Crone stated that since open enrollment started in Klein, there have been no defections from Klein Forest to the better schools.If you accept as a given that KF is at the bottom of the Klein totem pole ( which I do and which you do not )... it makes sense that if students aren't bothering to switch from lower to higher.. they sure as heck aren't going to switch from higher to lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crone Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Open enrollment was offered for a very brief time to equalize the population between Collins and Oak, who had too few students, and Forest, too many students. Forest kids could go to Collins or Oak. This was before the addition at Forest. There were no takers. Years ago, Woody Lyons offered a motion to allow open enrollment. If I remember correctly, the motion was seconded but no one voted for it. Klein ISD does not currently offer open enrollment. But, if you go to Mittlestadt and they like you and your grades, you can go to Kleb even though you are in the Wunderlich attendance zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 But, if you go to Mittlestadt and they like you and your grades, you can go to Kleb even though you are in the Wunderlich attendance zone.Someone else mentioned this to me recently: How in the world do they get away with doing this? I know a few years ago the Klein Intermediate students were given the option to go to Kleb or Strack because KI did not make AYP ... but Wunderlich has always made AYP so there would be no reason to allow someone out of their zoned middle school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crone Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 All they do is say mom works. Then mom gets a babysitter who is employed by the district at Mittlestadt. Since the caregiver drives the kid to school ( ha ha) the kid goes to Kleb. If the district ever checked employment, then they just enroll at the community college, and then never go to class. It's hard work avoiding poor minorities. One lady moved herself and her kid to their lake house in Conroe. Guess they come home to dad and the dog on weekends. I'm thinking about moving up to the Klein attendance zone so that I can supplement my Social Security by saying I babysit 14 year old kids or just selling my address. Thank goodness there are just a few folks with that attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENGcons Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 To say that KISD is in decline is a joke. As a matter of fact Klein just became a recognized school district. That is a title that Cy Fair, Tomball, Spring, and any other around KISD can't claim. And I am a KF Grad 1990. While the school is much different than when I went there to say it is crap is just verbal garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 To say that KISD is in decline is a joke. As a matter of fact Klein just became a recognized school district. That is a title that Cy Fair, Tomball, Spring, and any other around KISD can't claim. And I am a KF Grad 1990. While the school is much different than when I went there to say it is crap is just verbal garbage.BRAVO! Thank you for weighing in on this. It's so ridciulous that people think that Klein is in decline because it has become more diverse and that KF is sub-standard. The courseload and expectations put on my child at KF right now are pretty intense. Many of his teachers have their doctorates or even better -- they've former students who came back to teach and just love the school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfootball Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) To say that KISD is in decline is a joke. As a matter of fact Klein just became a recognized school district. That is a title that Cy Fair, Tomball, Spring, and any other around KISD can't claim. And I am a KF Grad 1990. While the school is much different than when I went there to say it is crap is just verbal garbage.Congratulations to Klein obtaining its Recognized status. ENGcons, please do your research before you post. Cy-Fair ISD is the largest Recognized school district in the State and has claimed that status for the past two years (and for many years before that). Cy-Fair ISD2009 - Recognized2008 - Recognized2007 - Acceptable2006 - Acceptable2005 - Acceptable 2004 - Recognized2003 - No Ratings Issued in 20032002 - Recognized2001 - Recognized2000 - Recognized1999 - RecognizedKlein ISD2009 - Recognized2008 - Acceptable2007 - Acceptable2006 - Acceptable2005 - Acceptable2004 - Recognized2003 - No Ratings Issued for 20032002 - Recognized2001 - Acceptable2000 - Acceptable1999 - AcceptableSpring ISD2009 - Acceptable2008 - Acceptable2007 - Acceptable2006 - Acceptable2005 - Acceptable2004 - Acceptable2003 - No Ratings Issued for 20032002 - Recognized2001 - Recognized2000 - Recognized1999 - AcceptableConroe ISD2009 - Recognized2008 - Acceptable2007 - Acceptable2006 - Acceptable2005 - Acceptable2004 - Acceptable2003 - No Ratings Issued for 20032002 - Acceptable2001 - Recognized2000 - Acceptable1999 - AcceptableTomball ISD 2009 - Acceptable2008 - Acceptable2007 - Acceptable2006 - Acceptable2005 - Acceptable2004 - Acceptable2003 - No Ratings Issued for 20032002 - Acceptable2001 - Acceptable2000 - Acceptable1999 - Acceptable*With as much money as Tomball ISD receives per capita from the State I would've thought they would have better rankings (conversely, Cy-Fair ISD receives the least per capita back from the State under current funding formulas) Edited September 16, 2009 by mrfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klein Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Well, Klein isd is Regonized for another year Klein HS--------- Reqonized Klein Forest HS-----Aceptable Klein Oak HS---------Regonized Klein Collins HS -----Regonized On a side note Klein HS cheats during the TAKS Test( or has been cheating while i was there) we had permission to use notes and cell phones from the admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) Yeah.. Those status designation public schools and ISDs use are about as useful as being designated "Who's Who Among America's Jr. Colleges". Completely Pointless. Let us all strive for Acceptable and Recognized and Mediocrity.If being a Middle of the Pack ISD gets you a "Recognized Status".. then that designation equates to "Average". That's not a note-worthy thing.2010 Children At Risk Ranking of Zoned Houston Area Public Schools -Average Ranking for ISDs 18.4 Katy ISD23.0 Clear Creek ISD23.4 Cy-Fair ISD27.2 Fort Bend ISD33.7 Spring Branch ISD38.0 Klein ISD45.0 Humble ISD48.2 Alief ISD48.8 Aldine ISD53.5 Spring ISD62.2 Pasadena ISD63.6 HISDISD RankingsKaty ISD4 Cinco Ranch High School5 Taylor High School24 Katy High School26 Morton Ranch High School33 Mayde Creek High SchoolClear Creek ISD12 Clear Lake High School26 Clear Brook High School31 Clear Creek High SchoolCy-Fair15 Cy-Fair High School16 Cypress Creek High School17 Langham Creek High School20 Cypress Falls High School23 Jersey Village High School35 Cypress Springs High School38 Cypress Ridge High SchoolFort Bend ISD2 Clements High School6 Stephen F Austin High School11 Dulles High School19 Kempner High School22 Lawrence E Elkins High School27 Hightower High School29 George Bush High School48 Marshall High School81 Willowridge High SchoolSpring Branch ISD3 Memorial High School10 Stratford High School44 Spring Woods High School78 Northbrook High SchoolKlein ISD18 Klein High School30 Klein Collins High School39 Klein Oak High School65 Klein Forest High SchoolHumble ISD13 Kingwood High School77 Humble High SchoolAlief ISD1 Kerr High School58 Taylor High School64 Hastings High School 70 Elsik High SchoolAldine ISD42 MacArthur High School62 Aldine High School69 Nimitz High School71 Eisenhower High SchoolSpring ISD56 Spring High School51 Westfield High SchoolPasadena ISD41 Pasadena Memorial52 Dobie High School66 Sam Rayburn High School73 South Houston High School79 Pasadena High SchoolHISD9 Bellaire High School14 Lamar High School21 Westside High School40 Barbara Jordan High School46 Waltrip High School47 Milby High School50 Sterling High School 55 Austin High School57 Reagan High School59 Chavez High School60 Lee High School 67 Scarborough High School72 Madison High School74 Worthing High School75 Washington BT High School76 Davis High School80 Westbury High School82 Sharpstown High School83 Furr High School84 Sterling High School 85 Lee High School 87 Wheatley High School88 Kashmere High School89 Yates High School90 Jones High School Edited August 28, 2010 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 And for those of you that are more of the Average Median kinda of guys....Average Median Ranking for ISDs 20 - Cy-Fair ISD22 - Fort Bend ISD24 - Katy ISD26 - Clear Creek ISD33.75 - Spring Branch ISD34.5 - Klein ISD45.0 - Humble ISD53.5 - Spring ISD61 - Alief ISD 65.5 - Aldine ISD66 - Pasadena ISD72 - HISD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klein Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 But of course the TAKS Test does not measure student achivement it only measures the school's abbitly to cover up cheating:P NO MORE TAKS FOR ME SENIOR CLASS OF 2011:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klein Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 2011 rankings for Klein ISDHigh SchoolsKlein High School..................................................................... Recognized.....................................................31Klein Forest High School...........................................................Academically Acceptable...........................108Klein Oak High School.............................................................. Recognized....................................................53Klein Collins High School........................................................... Recognized.....................................................51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 in short, all of the above isd's are subpar. is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klein Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The Texas STaR chart grades each school on how much technology is used by the teachers and students You may view them by clicking HereNote: They are in PDF form you can get a PDF viewer by clicking here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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