flatline Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Good news, but too bad they couldn't have gotten it while they were doing the JW construction. I seem to recall media reports indicating that the hotel developers made offers but couldn't reach a deal. My own wild speculation is that they have some contingencies drawn up for back-of-the-house uses for it. Agree parking seems like an impossibility. If nothing else, a refresh of street-side face should be on the way, and long overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 $8 million to bring it up to code and $17 million to make it OK for office occupancy. The JW Marriott cost $80 million with $12 million in city subsidies provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I hope that they make it an urban Target. well, at least I can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: I hope that they make it an urban Target. well, at least I can hope. ^ This. Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I can see this being renovated to condominiums for the JW Marriott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: I can see this being renovated to condominiums for the JW Marriott. What an interesting thought! would it not be difficult for residential given that there isn’t much natural light inside? I.e. long and narrow building with no windows on either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, UtterlyUrban said: What an interesting thought! would it not be difficult for residential given that there isn’t much natural light inside? I.e. long and narrow building with no windows on either side. Yeah, It seems you'd almost be limited to one unit per floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Would make a pretty good hostel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Assuming it's 50' wide, I'd think you could do 2 units per floor. They'd need to be lofts so natural light could get to the back, but that's not a particularly unusual floor plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Texasota said: Assuming it's 50' wide, I'd think you could do 2 units per floor. They'd need to be lofts so natural light could get to the back, but that's not a particularly unusual floor plan. Yes, I suppose you could. But lofts don't match up very well with the product offered by the JWMarriott. I suspect they will go a different route with this building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjorade Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 A restaurant on every floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Meeting rooms, ball room, restaurant, expanded spa, gym, indoor pool, ....... I am thinking that this might be a way to expand “infrastructure” .... not “additional guest rooms” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 0:23 PM, UtterlyUrban said: Meeting rooms, ball room, restaurant, expanded spa, gym, indoor pool, ....... I am thinking that this might be a way to expand “infrastructure” .... not “additional guest rooms” Why not both? More infrastructure towards the back, but have the front where the windows are be more guest rooms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 This will likely be a hotel of its own... Think a more affordable Marriott flag... There is nothing that states this will be a JW Marriott expansion. Pearl does many hotels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Avossos said: This will likely be a hotel of its own... Think a more affordable Marriott flag... There is nothing that states this will be a JW Marriott expansion. Pearl does many hotels. I don't see how they could get enough windows in the building to create a stand-alone hotel, unless it's a very specialized boutique... maybe 50 rooms? Edited December 17, 2018 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 There are windows on the back, with a glorious view of the air shaft. Perhaps they could market those rooms as having an "authentic urban vibe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: I don't see how they could get enough windows in the building to create a stand-alone hotel, unless it's a very specialized boutique... maybe 50 rooms? 13 minutes ago, mollusk said: There are windows on the back, with a glorious view of the air shaft. Perhaps they could market those rooms as having an "authentic urban vibe." I don’t see how it is much different than the Hyatt place hotel going in on Texas Ave. that too has limited front windows and difficult or no light on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Avossos said: I don’t see how it is much different than the Hyatt place hotel going in on Texas Ave. that too has limited front windows and difficult or no light on the side. It's actually quite different from the Hyatt Place. That building has windows on the front, the vast majority of the east side, at least half of the west side and part of the south side. The subject building has windows on the front and maybe an opportunity to add a few windows on the part of the north side. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: It's actually quite different from the Hyatt Place. That building has windows on the front, the vast majority of the east side, at least half of the west side and part of the south side. The subject building has windows on the front and maybe an opportunity to add a few windows on the part of the north side. That's it. I desperately want an Ace Hotel in Houston. Those are my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Don't Capitol Lofts and Kirby Lofts have many units with only one wall of windows that are fairly deep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Avossos said: I desperately want an Ace Hotel in Houston. Those are my favorite. Same. If a city has an Ace, I stay there. 31 minutes ago, kbates2 said: Don't Capitol Lofts and Kirby Lofts have many units with only one wall of windows that are fairly deep? For Capitol, the entire front of the building is floor to ceiling windows. The sides of Capitol Lofts actually open to interior courtyards (you can see it on google maps satellite view). One of the courtyards is bounded by Club Quarters and the soon to be open AC Hotel and you can see the top of BG Group Place from it. There are balconies both over main street and one of the courtyards which makes it a lot less claustrophobic. Looks like there is a courtyard between Battlestein and the JW. Note: I'm using courtyard loosely here. More like spaces between buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, kbates2 said: Don't Capitol Lofts and Kirby Lofts have many units with only one wall of windows that are fairly deep? The Kirby Lofts building has windows on the west, north and east sides Edited December 18, 2018 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Right but not all of the way up right? I looked at 4 units there and none had windows on more than one side and all would fit well in the footprint of this building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 elnina999 has added a photo to the pool: Throughout the lobby, hallways, and even inside some guest rooms, the original iron support beams have been uncovered and made a central design feature as a nod to the hotel’s history. Made by the same workers who built the Brooklyn Bridge, the workers’ original stamp is still visible on some of the supports. JW Marriott, Houston Downtown View the full article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I am curious to hear a plan or proposal for this building. Anyone heard anything on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 It has been a year and still no word. Does anyone have any information on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Looks quite dormant, there is no activity that you can see from the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Battelstein's was just listed in the National Register of Historic Places. That seems like a *very* good sign, and might also explain the delay. Edited February 7, 2020 by Texasota 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Texasota said: Battelstein's was just listed in the National Register of Historic Places. That seems like a *very* good sign, and might also explain the delay. That means they will seek historic restoration tax credits... good. How did you find this out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 It's a weirdly unreliable website, but the Park Service posts an updated list every Friday: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalregister/weekly-list.htm Today is not showing up right now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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