LTAWACS Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) I wonder if Continental is moving the HQ to Chicago as a concession to the "United" side to make the United side of the merger feel included?Maybe 5 or 10 years after the HQ is moved to Chicago, when the leases are almost up and the airline merger has been thoroughly digested, the airline could decide that it wants to move the HQ back to Houston (maybe this time in a newly-built magnificent skyscraper in downtown or midtown?)I fixed it for you. Edited May 11, 2010 by LTAWACS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I fixed it for you.If a Downtown property management company offers United a sweet deal, that could be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Yes, you are quite right. And their headquarters is in the 77 West Wacker Building. The space in Willis Tower is the Operations Center. There is no reason they could not move the headquarters and leave the operations center.Is any other airline headquarters separated from its operations center by a great distance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 If a Downtown property management company offers United a sweet deal, that could be a possibility.Whatever happened to that one proposed building in the Allen Center? I think it was 5 Allen Center?? That's seem like a good location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deut28Thirteen Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I was hoping when this 1st broke HQ was going to be Houston and we would get like a new 45-50 story tower. We can still dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I was hoping when this 1st broke HQ was going to be Houston and we would get like a new 45-50 story tower. We can still dream.dream on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 When I think about this merger, I am kind of happy. To me, it's sort of like your daughter getting married. You raised her to be great young woman, and now she's getting married. She looks the same but just changing last names. She's moving away, but she'll still come home to see you. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Sure a little sad, but it's not like she's dead. You'll still get to see her.;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Is any other airline headquarters separated from its operations center by a great distance?Good question. Not that I know of. (other than United having them separated by 20 miles or so) But I am skeptical that there is really any great need for the HQ execs to be near the operations center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Is any other airline headquarters separated from its operations center by a great distance?AFAIK Lufthansa's headquarters are in Cologne, but the operations are out of Frankfurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 When I think about this merger, I am kind of happy. To me, it's sort of like your daughter getting married. You raised her to be great young woman, and now she's getting married. She looks the same but just changing last names. She's moving away, but she'll still come home to see you. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Sure a little sad, but it's not like she's dead. You'll still get to see her.;PWhat if your daughter decided that she wanted to marry a mangy worm-ridden dog...literally...and live underneath a rusted-out Chevy? You'd probably be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 What if your daughter decided that she wanted to marry a mangy worm-ridden dog...literally...and live underneath a rusted-out Chevy? You'd probably be pissed. I trust that I would have taught my daughter that bestiality is wrong. I guess I don't know the man my daughter is marrying as well as I would like, but he's got lot's of stock and is well known.* I'm hoping that they'll grow together and being together will only make their marriage stronger; it seems like they both have weaknesses, but they are strong where the other person is weak, a good combination to have. *said for comical reasons only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVilla Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) Got to give it a chance, just like many other things that lately have suprisingly turned better to much better than expected. Still need to fight for a better shake of the deal though. Edited May 12, 2010 by JJVilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Got to give it a chance, just like many other things that lately have suprisingly turned better to much better than expected. What, beastiality? Still think I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Got to give it a chance, just like many other things that lately have suprisingly turned better to much better than expected. Still need to fight for a better shake of the deal though. What, beastiality? Still think I'll pass. For once (I think) I agree with you AtticaFinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVilla Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 What, beastiality? Still think I'll pass.No the merger deal! The other stuff is crazy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Continental announced IAH to Auckland service today. Of course it's contingent on receiving the 787 in time and how the merger pans out, but on November 11, 2011 you'll be to fly non-stop between IAH and AKL.HOUSTON, May 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE:CAL - News) today announced another major step in development of its Houston hub with plans to begin nonstop Boeing 787 flights to Auckland, New Zealand on Nov. 16, 2011 (subject to government approval).Auckland will be added to the 63 international destinations that Continental currently serves nonstop from Houston, and will become the 26th destination in Continental's Pacific network. Continental serves more destinations in the Pacific region than any other U.S. carrier.Continental will be one of just three airlines flying nonstop between North America and New Zealand. At approximately 7,400 miles, the new route will be the longest from Continental's Houston hub. Continental plans to operate the route on a daily basis, with five-times-weekly service during certain periods in the first year of operation.On May 3, Continental announced that it has agreed to merge with United Airlines in a merger of equals to create the world's leading airline. The success of the Houston-Auckland route will be enhanced by the additional traffic flows through Houston that are expected to result from the merger.First 787 Route AnnouncementContinental is the first airline in the world to formally announce specific, initial route plans for its Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet. The airline has firm orders for 25 Dreamliners. The 787 is a new-technology composite aircraft with lower operating costs, better environmental performance and an improved cabin environment for customer comfort. Deliveries to Continental are expected to begin in August 2011. The aircraft will have 228 seats, including 36 of Continental's new flat-bed BusinessFirst seats for the best rest on long-distance flights.Today Continental also unveiled a modernized and expanded customer check-in facility in Terminal C at its Houston hub at Bush Intercontinental Airport."Our new route to Auckland and our new and upgraded facilities at IAH are tangible examples of the emphasis we place on continuing to expand Houston's role in domestic and international aviation," said Jeff Smisek, Continental's chairman, president and CEO. "This hub has ongoing growth opportunities because it has a strategic location, space for expansion, support from the community and an excellent team of Continental co-workers who deliver our clean, safe and reliable service.""This new flight between Houston and Auckland shows how the Dreamliner will create new opportunities to connect global markets that currently are not being served," said Mario Diaz, Houston Airport System director of aviation. "As the largest hub for Continental, George Bush Intercontinental Airport is honored to be selected as the launch pad for the Continental Boeing 787." Convenient Connecting FlightsThe Houston-Auckland route will benefit from connecting traffic at both ends. Continental's Houston hub will draw passengers from throughout North America. In addition, Houston will be a very competitive connecting hub for travelers on itineraries between Europe and Auckland. Auckland is home to Air New Zealand, one of the 27 carriers including Continental which are members of Star Alliance. Air New Zealand and its regional airline partners offer service to 20 destinations in New Zealand and seven in Australia, including Adelaide, Brisbane, Cairns, Coolangatta (Gold Coast), Melbourne, Perth and Sydney. ScheduleFollowing is the preliminary schedule for the new service, planned to take effect Nov. 16, 2011. Continental will begin taking reservations and selling tickets on the new route later this year.Leave HoustonArrive AucklandLeave AucklandArrive HoustonSummer9:30 p.m.5:10 a.m. (2 days later)3:40 p.m.11:50 a.m. (same day)Winter9:10 p.m.6:55 a.m. (2 days later)5:55 p.m.11:55 a.m. (same day)About Auckland and New ZealandAuckland's waterside location has fostered the locals' love affair with the sea, earning this place the nickname "City of Sails." The city sprawls over a narrow isthmus between the waters of the Waitemata and Manukau Harbours. A cloak of rainforest covers the surrounding hills, dozens of dormant volcanic cones dot the landscape and inviting islands are scattered throughout the vast Hauraki Gulf. Two of the best island getaways are Waiheke Island and Great Barrier Island. Auckland's heart beats to a Polynesian rhythm, its people a melting pot of European, South Pacific and Asian cultures and a strong indigenous Maori heritage. This diversity brings with it an abundance of unique dining and shopping experiences. Auckland's temperate climate, easy access to the coast and variety of activities earn the city consistent "top five" rankings in international lifestyle surveys. New Zealand's awesome landscapes, lush forests, amazing wildlife and pleasant climate make it a haven for many outdoor activities, and a great place to unwind. New Zealand society is diverse, sophisticated and multicultural and the Kiwi people are known for their honesty, friendliness and openness. A great advantage of New Zealand is that all of its diverse physical, cultural and artistic landscapes are so close to each other.Continental BackgroundContinental Airlines is the world's fifth largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 2,700 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 132 domestic and 137 international destinations. Continental is a member of Star Alliance, which overall offers more than 21,050 daily flights to 1,167 airports in 181 countries through its 27 member airlines. With more than 40,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with its regional partners, carries approximately 63 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture. For nine consecutive years, FORTUNE magazine has ranked Continental as the top U.S. airline on its "World's Most Admired Companies" airline industry list. For more company information, go to continental.com. Important Information For Investors And Stockholders This communication does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any securities or a solicitation of any vote or approval. The proposed merger of equals transaction between UAL Corporation ("UAL") and Continental Airlines, Inc. ("Continental") will be submitted to the respective stockholders of UAL and Continental for their consideration. UAL will file with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") a registration statement on Form S-4 that will include a joint proxy statement of Continental and UAL that also constitutes a prospectus of UAL. UAL and Continental also plan to file other documents with the SEC regarding the proposed transaction. INVESTORS AND SECURITY HOLDERS OF CONTINENTAL ARE URGED TO READ THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE FILED WITH THE SEC CAREFULLY AND IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION. Investors and stockholders will be able to obtain free copies of the joint proxy statement/prospectus and other documents containing important information about UAL and Continental, once such documents are filed with the SEC, through the website maintained by the SEC at http://www.sec.gov. Copies of the documents filed with the SEC by UAL will be available free of charge on UAL's website at http://www.united.com/ under the tab "Investor Relations" or by contacting UAL's Investor Relations Department at (312) 997-8610. Copies of the documents filed with the SEC by Continental will be available free of charge on Continental's website at http://www.continental.com/ under the tab "About Continental" and then under the tab "Investor Relations" or by contacting Continental's Investor Relations Department at (713) 324-5152.UAL, Continental and certain of their respective directors and executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the stockholders of Continental in connection with the proposed transaction. Information about the directors and executive officers of Continental is set forth in its proxy statement for its 2010 annual meeting of stockholders, which was filed with the SEC on April 23, 2010. Information about the directors and executive officers of UAL is set forth in its proxy statement for its 2010 annual meeting of stockholders, which was filed with the SEC on April 30, 2010. These documents can be obtained free of charge from the sources indicated above. Other information regarding the participants in the proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holdings or otherwise, will be contained in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and other relevant materials to be filed with the SEC when they become available.Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking StatementsThis communication contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are not limited to historical facts, but reflect Continental's and UAL's current beliefs, expectations or intentions regarding future events. Words such as "may," "will," "could," "should," "expect," "plan," "project," "intend," "anticipate," "believe," "estimate," "predict," "potential," "pursue," "target," "continue," and similar expressions are intended to identify such forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include, without limitation, Continental's and UAL's expectations with respect to the synergies, costs and other anticipated financial impacts of the proposed transaction; future financial and operating results of the combined company; the combined company's plans, objectives, expectations and intentions with respect to future operations and services; approval of the proposed transaction by stockholders and by governmental regulatory authorities; the satisfaction of the closing conditions to the proposed transaction; and the timing of the completion of the proposed transaction. All forward-looking statements involve significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements, many of which are generally outside the control of Continental and UAL and are difficult to predict. Examples of such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, (1) the possibility that the proposed transaction is delayed or does not close, including due to the failure to receive required stockholder or regulatory approvals, the taking of governmental action (including the passage of legislation) to block the transaction, or the failure of other closing conditions, and (2) the possibility that the expected synergies will not be realized, or will not be realized within the expected time period, because of, among other things, significant volatility in the cost of aircraft fuel, the high leverage and other significant capital commitments of Continental and UAL, the ability to obtain financing and to refinance the combined company's debt, the ability of Continental and UAL to maintain and utilize their respective net operating losses, the impact of labor relations, global economic conditions, fluctuations in exchange rates, competitive actions taken by other airlines, terrorist attacks, natural disasters, difficulties in integrating the two airlines, the willingness of customers to travel by air, actions taken or conditions imposed by the U.S. and foreign governments or other regulatory matters, excessive taxation, further industry consolidation and changes in airlines alliances, the availability and cost of insurance and public health threats. UAL and Continental caution that the foregoing list of factors is not exclusive. Additional information concerning these and other risk factors is contained in Continental's and UAL's most recently filed Annual Reports on Form 10-K, subsequent Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q, recent Current Reports on Form 8-K, and other SEC filings. All subsequent written and oral forward-looking statements concerning Continental, UAL, the proposed transaction or other matters and attributable to Continental or UAL or any person acting on their behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements above. Neither Continental nor UAL undertakes any obligation to publicly update any of these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date hereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asubrt Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Wow, that's pretty amazing. I don't think many people were expecting a New Zealand route this quickly. Great news for IAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Bummer, I was actually hoping Air New Zealand would start this route to connect the Star Alliance hubs. A neat route for Continental, uh, I mean, United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Bummer, I was actually hoping Air New Zealand would start this route to connect the Star Alliance hubs. A neat route for Continental, uh, I mean, United.Any reason why? CO is connecting the hubs instead of Air New Zealand.I actually prefer the Air New Zealand seat and the service, but I can always go through LAX/SFO to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Continental is a good USA-based airline but Air New Zealand is a top five international airline. Plus, it's way more fun to spot a foreign flag carrier at IAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 The City of Houston paid $65m for the Terminal C upgrade on behalf of Continental. Now that they're not going to be the "home town airline" the city should seriously rethink sweetheart deals like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 The City of Houston paid $65m for the Terminal C upgrade on behalf of Continental. Now that they're not going to be the "home town airline" the city should seriously rethink sweetheart deals like that.This.When the merger news came out, all we kept hearing was how Chicago bent over backwards with incentives and whatnot. Then we see that COH paid $65 million in construction at IAH for Continental. This almost looks like a stadium-type deal. It also shows that contrary to the belief of some, COH could've put forward a better incentive package to keep CO here, and would have if given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) This.When the merger news came out, all we kept hearing was how Chicago bent over backwards with incentives and whatnot. Then we see that COH paid $65 million in construction at IAH for Continental. This almost looks like a stadium-type deal. It also shows that contrary to the belief of some, COH could've put forward a better incentive package to keep CO here, and would have if given the chance.Would you agree with the idea that the City of Houston has or will have the ability to submit an attractive incentive deal if it waits until the leases in the Chicago buildings run out? Houston could let Chicago have the HQ now, and then take time to assemble a good incentive package that would be offered around the time when the Chicago leases are up for renewal.I know a lot of airlines like to have their headquarters by airports, so the city of Houston could have the United HQ built on the property of Bush Intercontinental Airport. That way United would have all of its facilities (simulators, flight operations, corporate, crew hotels, etc) in one place. The United HQ could be accompanied by additional hotels, other offices, a public high school for aviation/airline industry careers, etc. Edited May 28, 2010 by VicMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 This.When the merger news came out, all we kept hearing was how Chicago bent over backwards with incentives and whatnot. Then we see that COH paid $65 million in construction at IAH for Continental. This almost looks like a stadium-type deal. It also shows that contrary to the belief of some, COH could've put forward a better incentive package to keep CO here, and would have if given the chance.Well, according to this, Houston was never an option:Tilton said moving United's headquarters from Chicago to Houston was never an option. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, who attended the Senate hearing and submitted written testimony, said she remained opposed to the merger in part because the departure of Continental's corporate headquarters would erode Houston's role as a hub for Continental and imperil “jobs for baggage handlers, ticket agents, other airline workers and many service workers” in a development that “would be devastating to the local Houston economy.” Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, voiced concern about the merger's impact. “Let me be clear,” Hutchison said in a statement. “The proposed merger is a very hard sell in Texas. I for one am extremely disappointed in this decision to merge.”Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/breaking/7025861.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVilla Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Desperate cities (like Chicago) will do whatever it takes to "convince" entities to keep jobs around since they can't naturally add many as supported by the following Forbes article: So what does Houston have that these other cities lack? Opportunity. Between 2000 and 2009 Houston's employment grew by 260,000. Greater New York City--with nearly three times the population of Houston--has added only 96,000 jobs. The Chicago area has lost 258,000 jobs, San Francisco 217,000, Los Angeles 168,000 and Boston 100,004.Politicians in big cities talk about jobs, but by keeping taxes, fees and regulatory barriers high they discourage the creation of jobs, at least in the private sector. Houston: Model City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 This is why we are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asubrt Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Continental announces a new route between IAH and Lagos, Nigeria starting November 10, 2011 subject to government approval.http://phx.corporate...7748&highlight= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Continental announces a new route between IAH and Lagos, Nigeria starting November 10, 2011 subject to government approval. http://phx.corporate...7748&highlight= Great, already two 787 routes out of Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 The combined Continental and United Airlines is getting another new logo -- its second since the merger was announced. Good news for CO fans, though -- it retains far more Continental heritage than United. The new logo displays the combined company’s brand name in capital letters (UNITED) in a custom sans-serif font, joined with the global mark which has represented Continental’s brand image since 1991.A corresponding update of the combined airline’s aircraft livery will adopt Continental’s livery, colors and design, including its blue-gold-white globe image on the tail, combined with the new-style UNITED name on the fuselage. Analysis of the new logo here: http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/follow-up_united_airlines.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ucllc%2Fbrandnew+%28Brand+New%29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'm pretty sure the only thing that has changed from the initial livery announcement is the font used for the word "United". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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