ToolMan Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Well, the Galleria is more of a downtown than downtown itself with the shopping, 24 hour restaurants, and bars. They just built downtown wrong in the 70's and 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Well, the Galleria is more of a downtown than downtown itself with the shopping...Downtown has shopping....24 hour restaurants...Name one....bars.Downtown has bars. Edited September 1, 2010 by TheNiche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbaker Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Wrong crowd. It doesn't belong any more in the Galleria than in Times Square.I think Angelika should move, though. Bayou Place was a mistake. A location in the greater Montrose area would be more visible to its core demographic. Also...even just a little bit of surface parking would do it some good by making it seem more inviting to the lazy man. Most Houstonians (including me) just aren't used to garage parking, parking ticket validation, or having to break sight-line with their destination between parking and walking to the destination's front door. Yes, yes, I know I'm a pu$$y--no need for you urbanistas to call me out. So be it. [shrug]I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Rice Village as an ideal location. The rent might be cost prohibitive for it to actually happen, but I suspect the Angelika's target demographic matches more closely with RIce University/Southhampton/West University than even Montrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think the best location would be the empty Bookstop/Alabama theater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Yes, Angelika to Bookstop and Alamo Drafthouse to Angelika and then life will be ideal. Let's do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Rice Village as an ideal location. The rent might be cost prohibitive for it to actually happen, but I suspect the Angelika's target demographic matches more closely with RIce University/Southhampton/West University than even Montrose.That would be nice but parking in the area is an issue. Don't know if Angelika could work out such a sweet deal with the Village garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolMan Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Well, I did post this after a downtown happy hour and wasn't thinking clearly. I still stand by my statement that the Galleria area is more of a downtown the the real downtown. The Galleria would support the Angelica better than downtown.Downtown has shopping.Don't be ridicoulous. Nothing compared to the Galleria area - and most are open late.Name one.You may have me there, but Mama's is open very late. There isn't much to eat after 8:00 downtown conpared to the Galleria area though. I could probably name 4x as many places to eat after 8:00 in the Galleria arae.Downtown has barsyes it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbancowboy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I wonder if they could go in at the Pavillions somewhere, or even at Main Place. I like the idea of having a movie house of any kind downtown. Midtown would be my second choice. I feel that Bayou Place as most of the museum district is really horribly designed to begin with. The parking out front and the interface was not appealing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunsonpark08 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 How was attendance at the Plitt theaters (the one on West Gray where Marshall's is now and the one on Augusta)? I would support the Alamo Drafthouse moving inside the loop as most of their special programming takes place on weeknights. What about that spot of land on Westheimer where the AD Players have promised to build a new theatre for about 5 years now? Has anyone heard of Gold Class Cinemas? They are an upscale version of the Drafthouse with locations in Austin and Dallas. http://www.goldclasscinemas.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 You may have me there, but Mama's is open very late. There isn't much to eat after 8:00 downtown conpared to the Galleria area though. I could probably name 4x as many places to eat after 8:00 in the Galleria arae.Sure about that? Flying Saucer, Little Napoli, Table 7 Bistro, Hong Kong Diner, Bombay Pizza, Nit Noi, Cava Bistro, Andalucia Tapas, iii Forks, Yao, Banzai, Azuma, Sambuca, Hard Rock Cafe, Mingalone, McCormick and Schmick's, Morton's, Vic and Anthony's, Strip House, Guadalajara Del Centro, Polk Street Pub, House of Blues, Lucky Strike, Grove, Bistro Lancaster, Spencer's, Hilton Americas Cafe, Samba Grille, Mia Bella, Cielo, Market Square Bar & Grill, Voice, to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The Rice Village had a great movie theater. Then, it was torn down to add shopping and parking... Oh, but they left part of the marque as a nod to history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Yes, Angelika to Bookstop and Alamo Drafthouse to Angelika and then life will be ideal. Let's do this!It would be cool to have two independent venues in two vintage theaters, but I suspect Weingarten would hate the idea of owning two such sites and put the kibosh on it. Oh, but they left part of the marque as a nod to history!That really annoyed me. It wasn't even the original marquee I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 It would be cool to have two independent venues in two vintage theaters, but I suspect Weingarten would hate the idea of owning two such sites and put the kibosh on it. Give them a little credit. Weingarten is not a two-dimensional Hanna-Barbera-style arch-villain. They might be willing to endure a little loss to lease today to be able to cash in on the goodwill tomorrow. OTOH, if we're facing a sort of "lost decade", then realistic prospects for redevelopment of the River Oaks or Alabama theater sites might be a very long time in coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Where in downtown did you live?Dakota Lofts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Wrong crowd. It doesn't belong any more in the Galleria than in Times Square.I think Angelika should move, though. Bayou Place was a mistake. A location in the greater Montrose area would be more visible to its core demographic. Also...even just a little bit of surface parking would do it some good by making it seem more inviting to the lazy man. Most Houstonians (including me) just aren't used to garage parking, parking ticket validation, or having to break sight-line with their destination between parking and walking to the destination's front door. Yes, yes, I know I'm a pu$$y--no need for you urbanistas to call me out. So be it. [shrug]Wasn't there an art house theater in Greenway Plaza? I seem to remember ruining a favorite shirt there (butter stain that never came out) seeing that awful Björk film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 How about Angelika goes to the Astrodome and makes the world's most kick-ass Omnimax theater! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Wasn't there an art house theater in Greenway Plaza? I seem to remember ruining a favorite shirt there (butter stain that never came out) seeing that awful Björk film.There was. Same problem, though. It was a neat location...if you it even existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) Yes, Landmark Greenway. I liked that one too. There was a nice diversity of indie movies when we had both Landmarks and Angelika. It was the same "landlord terminated our lease" weasel-words. Edited September 2, 2010 by kylejack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolMan Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Sure about that? Flying Saucer, Little Napoli, Table 7 Bistro, Hong Kong Diner, Bombay Pizza, Nit Noi, Cava Bistro, Andalucia Tapas, iii Forks, Yao, Banzai, Azuma, Sambuca, Hard Rock Cafe, Mingalone, McCormick and Schmick's, Morton's, Vic and Anthony's, Strip House, Guadalajara Del Centro, Polk Street Pub, House of Blues, Lucky Strike, Grove, Bistro Lancaster, Spencer's, Hilton Americas Cafe, Samba Grille, Mia Bella, Cielo, Market Square Bar & Grill, Voice, to name a few.Like I said, I can name at least 4x as many in the Gallera area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Can someone give me the intricacies of "The landlord terminated our lease"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Can someone give me the intricacies of "The landlord terminated our lease"?When you are on a month-month lease, the landlord can say "**** this" and terminate. I would assume that the landlord has a better deal lined up.That whole Bayou Place is a mess. All of the tenants are on shaky ground. Nothing there is a good experience. It has gotten worse since all of the action is now at Pavillions. I think that Bayou Place should be either turned into office tenants, like the western portion of the place, or torn down and made into greenspace-park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 When you are on a month-month lease, the landlord can say "**** this" and terminate. I would assume that the landlord has a better deal lined up.That whole Bayou Place is a mess. All of the tenants are on shaky ground. Nothing there is a good experience. It has gotten worse since all of the action is now at Pavillions. I think that Bayou Place should be either turned into office tenants, like the western portion of the place, or torn down and made into greenspace-park.Or a hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Like I said, I can name at least 4x as many in the Gallera area.Depends how loosely you define "the Galleria area", I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Like I said, I can name at least 4x as many in the Gallera area.Looking forward to your list of 128+ restaurants in the Galleria area open after 8 PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 That whole Bayou Place is a mess. All of the tenants are on shaky ground. Nothing there is a good experience. It has gotten worse since all of the action is now at Pavillions.All the action? That's not much action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 All the action? That's not much action.Its about as much action as an Interstate 10 Buccees on a Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunsonpark08 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 That was my point about the Galleria. People flock to that place more than anywhere else in Houston. It is also filled with international shoppers and tourist. A 6 screen theatre would be perfect because you can have 1 screen for blockbusters to bring in the casual filmgoer and then devote the other 5 to indie films. Downtown just does not work as a destination spot. I am shocked the Aquarium has survived this long. My wife and I were at the House of Blues last Saturday for lunch and it was just us and another couple. Books a Million was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 That was my point about the Galleria. People flock to that place more than anywhere else in Houston. It is also filled with international shoppers and tourist. A 6 screen theatre would be perfect because you can have 1 screen for blockbusters to bring in the casual filmgoer and then devote the other 5 to indie films. Downtown just does not work as a destination spot. I am shocked the Aquarium has survived this long. My wife and I were at the House of Blues last Saturday for lunch and it was just us and another couple. Books a Million was dead.I hate the damn Galleria area. Over rated and over priced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I hate the damn Galleria area. Over rated and over priced.Exactly the kind of area that has tourists and visitors. No one stays in a hotel downtown when they come here, and very few people live downtown. That's why it's dead at night. You can't just build things downtown and expect people to journey to them. First you need to get people staying/living down there - more conventions, more hotels, more lofts/apartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolMan Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) Looking forward to your list of 128+ restaurants in the Galleria area open after 8 PM.Just scan through this list.http://www.urbanspoon.com/n/8/747/Houston/The-Galleria-restaurants Edited September 3, 2010 by ToolMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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