mollusk Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Nice catch, Urbannizer. For selfish reasons, I'm really looking forward to having that part of the tunnel system back open and improved. With any amount of luck, it will support some food options that are a notch or two above the usual Tunnel Trash - something more along the lines of Perbacco at the street level of Pennzoil, perhaps. After all, Post Oak Grill manages to stay alive among the Mole People (at least at the Reliant location - Commerce Tower's food court remains strangely unnoticed), and Tunnel Sushi made a good go of it in the old Houston Club tunnel to Pennzoil (granted, when spoken the concept sounded like Truck Stop Sushi, but it was actually pretty decent). Edited September 17, 2014 by mollusk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 That has more of an impact on the skyline than I thought it would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Really glad that Jones Hall and Jones Plaza are situated where they are. Otherwise we could risk loosing Pennzoil, in the skyline, all together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The steps/benches on the stairs down to the tunnel look really neat, but I can't help but have a nagging suspicion that there will be a "this is why we can't have nice things" moment involving an inattentive walker/texter and his attorney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mollusk Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The steps/benches on the stairs down to the tunnel look really neat, but I can't help but have a nagging suspicion that there will be a "this is why we can't have nice things" moment involving an inattentive walker/texter and his attorney. Maybe a moat water feature at the top would be an attractive way to prevent that particular accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 2014-09-20 10.57.07 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-09-20 11.00.00 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-09-20 11.03.17 by marclongoria, on Flickr 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Big pile o' rubble inside the high rise from Rusk... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 http://capitoltowerhouston.com/video.asp So cool, reminds me of a nice airport inside. It will really fill in the skyline, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This is a project that doesn't do much for me. Can someone remind me about the parking garage? Is it staying? Thank you in advance and yes I don't want to click through 15 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Can someone remind me about the parking garage? Is it staying? Thank you in advance and yes I don't want to click through 15 pages. It all makes very little sense, but here goes my explanation of the garage situation as near as I can figure out from what has been discussed to date here. Among the users of the old Houston Club garage was a group (maybe Chase) that did not hold a conventional parking contract, but rather an easement on the property itself on which to park cars. For reasons I can not fathom, they would not or could not sell that easement, so Skanska converts a part of the old office space in to a garage complete with new ramps to house the cars on the property. They then gut the remainder of the building and completely remove a slice out of the middle such that they can implode the remaining structure without harming the newly converted garage portion. Once the rubble is cleared, construction on the new tower will begin with a new parking garage on the Rusk side of the block. After the completely new garage is operational, the temporary garage will be demolished to make room for the office tower as seen in the renderings which will be constructed around the new garage. This may all be based on incorrect speculation or bad information, but it is the most plausible scenario that would account for the whackadoo plan that has unfolded for the demolition and reconstruction approach to this project. I welcome any correction or clarification that anyone might provide, it is all quite odd. The additional cost to convert the building and then accommodate getting a new garage constructed and operational first in the middle of your 30 something story tower construction project would have to be at least several million dollars. Why anyone would not suspend an easement and go buy parking somewhere else in the vicinity for a couple of years for that amount of money is something I have not figured out and makes me suspicious that all of what I wrote above is surely dead wrong. Edited September 24, 2014 by Nate99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I have the same understanding, though I'm not entirely sure that the carefully preserved ownership interest in parking rights is necessarily an easement or perhaps some other critter (a distinction that I grant is likely of interest only to me, houstontexasjack, and maybe one or two others with strange obsessions for precise nomenclature and/or law licenses). I wonder if the parking right (whatever precise vehicle it may be) has some sort of reverter interest associated with it, where if the parking isn't used the interest re-merges with the remainder or maybe goes back to the original grantor - much like what is the case with some of the park donations over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I have the same understanding, though I'm not entirely sure that the carefully preserved ownership interest in parking rights is necessarily an easement or perhaps some other critter (a distinction that I grant is likely of interest only to me, houstontexasjack, and maybe one or two others with strange obsessions for precise nomenclature and/or law licenses). I wonder if the parking right (whatever precise vehicle it may be) has some sort of reverter interest associated with it, where if the parking isn't used the interest re-merges with the remainder or maybe goes back to the original grantor - much like what is the case with some of the park donations over the years. Whatever it may be termed, it certainly has more teeth in it than I would have expected. It would be interesting to hear the whole story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Whatever it may be termed, it certainly has more teeth in it than I would have expected. It would be interesting to hear the whole story. Jesse Jones was no dummy. Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some sort of evil genius clause that requires his giant portrait to remain in what is now Chase's banking lobby in 712 Main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Thank you for the explanation. Only in Houston...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDW Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I do know Skanska is required to provide Chase with 150+ parking spaces on that site. The 6 story building was always a garage, the ramps feeding that building were in the 12 & 18 story side. That was the reason for the ramps being installed on the Milam side. I am amazed that Skanska was unable to buy Chase out of the arrangement. They spent millions converting the 6 story to be a stand alone building. Not just installing the ramps, but the $ to redo all the MEP systems that were needed to be re-routed was not cheap. It also had to escalate the cost to demolish the other buildings with the garage so close. I'm guessing they had to know all this going in to the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H-Town Man Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Jesse Jones was no dummy. Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some sort of evil genius clause that requires his giant portrait to remain in what is now Chase's banking lobby in 712 Main. I think that's the badass portrait clause. Do you know who the other portrait is of, btw? My guess was Ben Love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It is Ben Love. He has not only the supersized portrait, but a life sized bronze statue of him in a WWII flight suit lurking around somewhere. It was displayed in the Chase Tower sky lobby for a thankfully brief period before being taken off to gaze purposefully over its permanent location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It is Ben Love. He has not only the supersized portrait, but a life sized bronze statue of him in a WWII flight suit lurking around somewhere. It was displayed in the Chase Tower sky lobby for a thankfully brief period before being taken off to gaze purposefully over its permanent location. Interesting. When I was a courier about ten years ago I once had a delivery to his office. I was bringing some fancy Houston social directory, a black binder with gold lettering iirc. Anyway the office was on the 18th floor of the Chase tower (18F?), and when I finished the delivery, I asked them if I could use the phone. This was typical for me in those days because I didn't have a cell phone and the company hadn't given me a radio yet, so every time I made a delivery I had to ask to use the phone to report in. Annoyed a lot of people. Anyway, they let me go in this side room where there were all these framed photos and news articles on the wall, Houston Chronicle/Post headlines and what not. It was pretty cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The Capitol Tower leasing/marketing office is setting up shop across the street in the Esperson building, street level next to the new tunnel escalators. Bonus shot of what is left of the mural too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Chain link fencing material going up around the lower floors. Less than two weeks until the boom. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I didn't realize the Houston Club was 18 stories tall. http://m.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2014/10/how-to-demolish-a-building-in-downtown-houston.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Travis is going to be closed this weekend, presumably to remove the (de)construction elevator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The blue fabric that was covering the south (Rusk) side of the building is all gone now. I don't know if it blew down or they took it up, but it was sailing like a curtain in the breeze yesterday at lunch time as the squall line was about to blow through downtown. There was also so much particulate being blown out of there that it looked like smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The blue fabric that was covering the south (Rusk) side of the building is all gone now. I don't know if it blew down or they took it up, but it was sailing like a curtain in the breeze yesterday at lunch time as the squall line was about to blow through downtown. There was also so much particulate being blown out of there that it looked like smoke. Blue Fabric is still up on the Pennzoil Place side. View from street level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Looks like they are doing a 25 block exclusion zone: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoninATX Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Here's hoping that construction of Capitol Tower gets going after demolition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heightsite Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Perhaps the Four Season's hotel roof would prove to offer a good view. Too soon? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Here's hoping that construction of Capitol Tower gets going after demolition. Why all the skeptisim around this building? All signs point to this going up. Seems like there are quite a few on this board who seem to think this is not a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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