fwki Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I saw that Venture Commercial and Bryan Danna posted their real estate sign in front of the Conoco. These are the same developers of the former Burroughs property on the north side of White Oak (D'Amicos etc). HCAD Tax records still show the Burroughs trust as owners, but that data base is not current. Anybody hear anything about the site being in play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Nope but a nice tall tower should just nicely here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 The property falls under the original Norhill Addition deed restrictions, but it is one of the originally designated commercial lots in Norhill Addition wherein the residential limitations did not apply. I do not know what commercial deed restrictions exist, if any, so a nice tall tower would really spark the forum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 City records show transactions for two properties closed on April 11, 2012 from Burroughs Trust to 602 STWD LP (GP being NAV-Retail, LLC). The Conoco tract is 18,237 SF and the Ready Room tract is 9,768 both classified as commercial real estate. That is a nice chunk of land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGM Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nope but a nice tall tower should just nicely here.It would be environmentally conscious to recycle the Ashby Highrise Tower of Terror signs if a tower were to emerge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Excellent idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think something similar in size to the development on 11th and studewood would fit nicely there. But really i just want a sushi or indian restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Would there be MTBE contamination issues? I would guess that no one would be interested in keeping it as a gas station once Kroger opens up its gas station down the street. But with or without MTBE remediation costs, it will not be cheap to take out the gas tanks and get a clean bill of health from an enviro engineer. The other issue is that the Studewood side has that weird merge lane that cuts Studewood NB down from two lanes to one. Not a deal killer, but it would not be a feature that a fast food restaurant would want in front of its main driveway. I suspect it will be a while before someone takes a shot at redeveloping this parcel. There are other similarly sized parcels in the Heights that do not have as much baggage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Gas stations are repurposed routinely. Not only is it not a deal killer, it is not even a deal inhibitor. Given the limited number of parcels eligible for liquor permits (this site has had two), it won't be hard to turn that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Compared to the cost of the property and rebuilding, the tank removal or abandonment is cheap - about $5,000-$10,000 per location. Since 1998 all tanks in use had to meet modern standards which is why we saw many old stations close in the early 90's. No doubt the purchaser did his enviromental due-diligence in any case. However, these guys didn't lift a brick for two years after purchase of the D'Amicos tract, so don't expect any action soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 One of my coworkers says he saw some protestors out there on the way to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 i'm would think something would happen sooner rather than later, given all the recent successes along white oak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGM Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Gas stations are repurposed routinely. Not only is it not a deal killer, it is not even a deal inhibitor. Given the limited number of parcels eligible for liquor permits (this site has had two), it won't be hard to turn that lot.How about a Heights version of Petrol, but with a real kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think something similar in size to the development on 11th and studewood would fit nicely there. But really i just want a sushi or indian restaurant.Off topic but a lot of people don't know that Thai Spice on 19th has sushi. It's not a huge assortment, but it has always been fresh and it's BYOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Off topic but a lot of people don't know that Thai Spice on 19th has sushi. It's not a huge assortment, but it has always been fresh and it's BYOB....as does (I think) Dragon Bowl on 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 ...as does (I think) Dragon Bowl on 11th.and don't forget Kroger....heck, I think the Conoco serves sushi now ever since the WHCA wrote it into the deed restrictions as "compulsory fare" along with the no new garage apartments clause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 but they aren't "sushi" places. Dragonbowl is consistantly subpar in all aspects. Thai spice has decent sushi, but i'd love a place where sushi is the focus. Maybe one of those chipotle style build your own hand rolls places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rental me this Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Gotta chime in on the lack of good sushi in the Heights. I've tried it a couple times at Thai Spice and was pretty underwhelmed. My pieces were very dry and tastewise, boring. The 11th Street Kroger rocks by comparison, which ain't saying much. It would be great to get an actual sushi place in the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Listen, people, I'm not saying I wouldn't love a great sushi restaurant in the Heights but if you want a couple simple rolls, there are places to go. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) I would be happier to see a bagel place there, since there aren't any North of I-10. Edited August 20, 2012 by Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I want a smoky bar with slutty women hanging around. Can't have enough of those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJxvi Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Gotta hit the burbs for a smokey bar... Edited August 22, 2012 by JJxvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 http://blogs.houstonpress.com/eating/2013/01/ken_bridge_opening_new_cantina.phpFrom the link, Ken Bridge (Pinks, Lola, Witchcraft, Shepherd Park) is behind the development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Let the Margarita wars begin! I hope it's a traditional Mexican cantina in keeping with the historical knife and gun play at that location. Plus I like the traditional Mexican cantina rules......from Wikipedia:In rural Mexico, cantina traditionally refers to a kind of bar that is normally frequented only by males for the purpose of imbibing alcohol and partaking of botanas (appetizers). Some cantinas are also known for being places where people gather to play dominoes, cards or other table games. Cantinas can often be distinguished by signs that expressly prohibit entrance to women (mujeres) and children... Also, some cantinas explicitly prohibit entrance to dogs (perros) and men in police or military uniform (uniformados). Some of the traditional restrictions on entry to cantinas are beginning to fade away. However, in many areas it is still viewed as scandalous for proper ladies to be seen visiting a genuine cantina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Does it still count if the knife play actually occurred across the street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yes. According to the HAHC's Unwritten Rules of Historical Designation, dueling grounds and locations of judicial combat are to be preserved in their entirety including areas of participation, secondee activity and observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I see. Plus, as I understand it, the knifee was staggering TOWARD the Conoco before collapsing, likely to buy a box of Marlboro Reds before he expired. Since the Conoco was likely his intended destination, I'm sure it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 From the article:"I will actually be adding on to the existing Conoco building and adding about 5,000 more square feet of restaurant and outdoor patio space." He admits to being chagrined about having to demolish the old Redi Room, but when has time not marched on in Houston?So, they will repurpose the gas station and demolish the old bar. Interesting. Petrol Station did a great job repurposing an old gas station. But, that Conoco station is a different story. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 sounds good to me, I can't wait to see how it ends up looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Remember when the Conoco night clerk blew away a shoplifter for stealing a case of beer? Shot him dead when he got back into his truck. Ah, the memories....Here's a link:http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Houston-clerk-fatally-shoots-alleged-beer-thief-1824938.php Edited January 7, 2013 by fwki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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