Triton Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 52 minutes ago, Nate99 said: Could be extremely interesting. Yes, this sex dungeon does sound quite interesting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ...He's more robot than human now.... But more on the subject of KBR. Well, tangentially related to KBR. I was under the layman's impression the realignment would 1) double up the roads along where 69 is, thus further obstructing the KBR site, and was 2) not a done deal? Anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Triton said: Yes, this sex dungeon does sound quite interesting. Just as long as there is no video. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ^^^ what on earth is with this EAST RIVER moniker? "river?" a mile away from downtown houston is simply ridiculous! what not just go with BAYOU EAST? silly season indeed...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 CC has the advantage of being an an already affluent area next to nice roads and is on two major highways. this site is in the hood with crappy roads, limited access, to freeways, no bus service to speak of, and may or may not still have an active rail line or two next to it. They way want to wait for outside infrastructure improvements first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 hour ago, monarch said: ^^^ what on earth is with this EAST RIVER moniker? "river?" a mile away from downtown houston is simply ridiculous! what not just go with BAYOU EAST? silly season indeed...... Admittedly i dont understand the "east river" moniker either. A ) it's not a "river". b ) it sounds too much like an NYC rip off. 2 hours ago, EllenOlenska said: ...He's more robot than human now.... But more on the subject of KBR. Well, tangentially related to KBR. I was under the layman's impression the realignment would 1) double up the roads along where 69 is, thus further obstructing the KBR site, and was 2) not a done deal? Anyone? True. Last I heard the realignment was still up in the air, though it seemed like txdot was leaning heavily towards the realignment. I'm not sure "obstruction" would be much of an issue though? On a somewhat related side note, I had mentioned in the past that I hoped whoever developed this property would implement some sort of bayou transportation connecting the site with Allens Landing/downtown. They could be a midpoint stop between Allens Landing and the proposed Maritime museum at the turning basin. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 hours ago, monarch said: ^^^ what on earth is with this EAST RIVER moniker? "river?" a mile away from downtown houston is simply ridiculous! what not just go with BAYOU EAST? silly season indeed...... I agree. It is unimaginative to be always imitating NYC places ( midtown,uptown,avenida de las Americas etc which are at least tolerable) but now to extend this illusion to renaming a bayou after one of their rivers. This is too much. Even in an ad. Are we going to rename the Astros "Houston Yankees Jr" ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said: I agree. It is unimaginative to be always imitating NYC places ( midtown,uptown,avenida de las Americas etc which are at least tolerable) but now to extend this illusion to renaming a bayou after one of their rivers. This is too much. Even in an ad. Are we going to rename the Astros "Houston Yankees Jr" ? Oh for the love of god, get hold of yourself. Nobody is renaming the bayou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Triton said: Thank God they didn't explain to us what "east" meant. I think they're concerned people are going to ask "Why use River instead of Bayou?" Think East River just sounds more marketable than East Bayou. They may think that there are people who are not aware that bayous are rivers. And judging by the reaction of some on this board, they are apparently correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I hope to God you are correct. With this renaming of everything in the last 20 years to sound like New York Junior I wouldn't be so sure. Just look at how many places have been given illusionary New York names. In addition to the previous list East side is now called "Eado" or something similar. It all lacks originality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said: I hope to God you are correct. With this renaming of everything in the last 20 years to sound like New York Junior I wouldn't be so sure. Just look at how many places have been given illusionary New York names. In addition to the previous list East side is now called "Eado" or something similar. It all lacks originality. Is there another city (or at least urban discussion board) with so such low self-esteem that they pee their pants at the possibility that something might be seen to be derivative of something in New York City? Cities all over America have downtowns, uptowns, midtowns, SoMas, NoDos, EaDos, LoDos, etc., etc., etc. There is even an East River some place outside of New York (an actual river, unlike the non-river East River in NYC) and any number of other things named East River, in places other than NYC. And FWIW, the entire East Side is not EaDo. Edited September 29, 2016 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said: I hope to God you are correct. With this renaming of everything in the last 20 years to sound like New York Junior I wouldn't be so sure. Just look at how many places have been given illusionary New York names. In addition to the previous list East side is now called "Eado" or something similar. It all lacks originality. The name clearly to some degree refers to the East River in New York City; Brinsden acknowledged the New York inspiration in the article, and even gave out Brooklyn's Dumbo (which is on the East River) as an example. That said, there is nothing wrong with deriving names from NYC, just like there was nothing wrong with NYC deriving many of its place names from London. Edited September 29, 2016 by H-Town Man 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 57 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: They may think that there are people who are not aware that bayous are rivers. And judging by the reaction of some on this board, they are apparently correct. I'm pretty sure people on this board are aware that a bayou is a "slow moving river", but that doesn't change the fact that the body of water that this property is on is called Buffalo Bayou, not Buffalo River. Either way I'm happy about the planned development. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I wonder if there were people in NYC that had discussions about areas being named after places in London, or the Netherlands back in the way back machine? Harlem? Really? Can't we be more original than that?? Anyway, I may be in serious denial, but I think the freeway realignment is really far from funded, no matter what the people at txdot approve. there's a chron article that stated 4 billion just for the downtown section? http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/transportation/article/Houston-s-7-billion-highway-project-would-widen-8323573.php Edited September 29, 2016 by samagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 A city founded by New Yorkers dare a single development with a similar name? Someone call Crimestoppers. Also weren't the Astros founded by the Yankees owner? Yankees Jr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownboy Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Yeah, but Upstate isn't too relevant in this conversation, is it? We are talking about The City.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? -A central plaza styled like those in Europe and Latin America. A fountain? -Need light rail extension to it maybe stemming from the green line, buses too. -Integrate the bayou. Restaurants and cafes right on it, but try to limit chains. -A big public market like Pikes Place in Seattle. -Use native trees and plants. No palm trees! -Mix modern/contemporary architecture with the warehouse brick look of the east end. No stucco or beige! -Use arches, we don't have enough of those. And incorporate them into ground floor retail and restaurants. -A clock tower that you can climb up to for the hell of it. -I'm not sure if the development goes across the bayou as well, but if it does, a signature bridge. Something with charm. -And lastly, make it a development where all sorts of people can go have fun, play local music, and interact. No matter how awesome it is, we don't need another river oaks district. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? Show them renderings of Regent Square and then ask them if they envision a similarly urban design for their development. Emphasize to them that where they decide to put parking is key. Parking that comes between the sidewalk and storefront typically endorses a suburban design, with large pedestrian unfriendly setbacks. If they put parking behind stores, that's ok. If they make parking garages, that's ok. If they go underground parking, that's ok. If they put parking on street sides, that's ok too. But they should try to avoid putting parking lots between their developments. Show them the street level interface planned for Regent Square, or even City Center. Because they have nearly a mile of bayou fronting their land, a river walk type of thing with stores, restaurants, and bars along the bayou would be amazing. Edited October 4, 2016 by Sellanious Caesar 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? Keep it simple. Back Bay in Boston is beautifully simple. One commercial street. One boulevard/esplanade street. Park along the river. Uniform grid, no pointless curves or dead ends. All the best places are laid out simple. Simple gets better with age. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? Dont really care what goes on it, I just would like it to feel integrated with the streets and feel as public as possible. Avoid anything that feels like it's an enclosed development. Put as many streets on it as possible. Don't build ugly garages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Have an opportunity to speak with Midway in the next few weeks about this development. What would HAIF'rs give as input on a project with this much open land and with the opportunity to make this a landmark site? Top golf on a roof jk but seriously stay away from the bland beige color pallet and well planned connection/integration to the bayou. This might be a long shot but if they really want to create something special like they claim this would be a good chance to create a landmark or something that really stands out that has never been seen before. I'm not speaking of the actual development itself just some sort of novelty structure like the space needle in Seattle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtNsf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 hours ago, pablog said: -A central plaza styled like those in Europe and Latin America. A fountain? -Need light rail extension to it maybe stemming from the green line, buses too. -Integrate the bayou. Restaurants and cafes right on it, but try to limit chains. -A big public market like Pikes Place in Seattle. -Use native trees and plants. No palm trees! -Mix modern/contemporary architecture with the warehouse brick look of the east end. No stucco or beige! -Use arches, we don't have enough of those. And incorporate them into ground floor retail and restaurants. -A clock tower that you can climb up to for the hell of it. -I'm not sure if the development goes across the bayou as well, but if it does, a signature bridge. Something with charm. -And lastly, make it a development where all sorts of people can go have fun, play local music, and interact. No matter how awesome it is, we don't need another river oaks district. I agree NO PALM TREES ! So tired of seeing those in the central, northern and western parts of the city where they are NOT NATIVE. It isn't Galveston and will never be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Are palm trees even native to Galveston? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houstontexasjack Posted October 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 I'd like to see more magnolia trees used. As I understand it, there were once natural magnolia groves near Buffalo Bayou along the east side. Also, the blossoms are delightful in the spring. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) - Edited July 11, 2019 by Timoric 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Timoric said: They do look nice and I used to like them too until I had to care for them. I have two huge year-round blooming Magnolias (not sure what you call them) and actually really dislike them because they make tons of raking, pruning, picking up broken sticks, and bagging with the pine cone things they drop and the heavy dirty leaves multiple times a year. Of course my wife thinks they are great looking out the window smiling at me holding a wine glass while I am raking all the time. That's one of the beauties of a high density, master planned environment... you get People to do such things. Seriously, though, magnolias work best when they've got enough room to do their natural thing of having limbs all the way to the ground. That takes care of a lot of the stick and cone picking, raking, and pretty much all of the pruning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Purify Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Fool me once... If Alessandra is any indication, the KBR site is going to be CityCentre on the bayou. Not the worst thing in the world, but hardly something that's going to break new ground or be a major tourist attraction like Pike Place. We can all fantasize about more, but I think it would be foolish to expect anything beyond Midway's track record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I think Texas bald Cypress trees along the bayou edge would be very nice. They are native and they love water. They turn a beautiful rust color in the fall. I would prefer no stucco. I think if your going to build a lasting project that sets a high bar it should be brick and concrete and steel. Provide for a lookout area perhaps the plaza built above the parking garage for downtown vistas. Urban design only no suburban schlock! Leave room for continuation of trails along the bayou. I think a trolley down Clinton to downtown Harrisburg light rail station at Convention center would be great. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Also, I'm suprised no one on here commented on this company KBRN's purchases at the same time: ACCOUNT INFORMATION Account Number Owner Name Property Address Zip Impr Sq Ft Market Value Appraised Value 0371220000006 KBRN LP 2315 NAVIGATION BLVD 77003 0 $4,068,500 $4,068,500 0371230000001 KBRN LP 2338 NAVIGATION BLVD 77003 0 $123,440 $123,440 0371230000005 KBRN LP 2311 CANAL ST 77003 49,700 $3,655,120 $3,655,120 0371230000023 KBRN LP 2332 NAVIGATION BLVD 77003 0 $236,620 $236,620 0351540000001 KBRN LP 3300 CLINTON DR 77020 0 $375,000 $375,000 0351550000001 KBRN LP 3200 CLINTON DR 77020 0 $325,000 $325,000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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