Texasota Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Exactly. Shade trees make a huge difference here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 36 minutes ago, Texasota said: Exactly. Shade trees make a huge difference here. Which makes it even more perplexing that the City routinely allows developers to hack down mature sidewalk shade trees with a 20' canopy for darn near every urban construction project. "Oh, don't worry, a new 5' tree with a 3' spread will be planted in its place......". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, kdog08 said: They just don't provide much shade in a city that needs shade along sidewalks. In Houston we can grow a decent variety of palm trees from Pindos, Queens, to several varieties of fan palms some more cold hardy than others. They are beautiful and give a feeling of the tropics. For shade purposes I would think deciduous trees are better. They leaf up during the hot season and un-leaf during winter ( as brief as ours is) allowing sunlight through. The crepe myrtle if turned into a "tree shape" would look beautiful in our area. If is shade is what one wants can't beat the live oak or the magnolias that grow around here. Either way shading our streets and sidewalks would make the city a more pleasant place. Edited April 6, 2017 by Twinsanity02 grammar error 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 14 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: Which makes it even more perplexing that the City routinely allows developers to hack down mature sidewalk shade trees with a 20' canopy for darn near every urban construction project. "Oh, don't worry, a new 5' tree with a 3' spread will be planted in its place......". Pretty sure the city actually does not allow that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 The city has an ordinance on file that does indeed not allow that. However, there appear to be quite a few variances approved for this ordinance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 16 hours ago, samagon said: The city has an ordinance on file that does indeed not allow that. However, there appear to be quite a few variances approved for this ordinance. Bingo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Yeah some new town homes right near me just chopped down 4 mature oak trees so the ordinance is not very effective. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 7:22 PM, jmitch94 said: Yeah some new town homes right near me just chopped down 4 mature oak trees so the ordinance is not very effective. Report it to the city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 25 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: Report it to the city The ordinance doesn't apply to trees on private property. Only trees on the City right of way. If the removed trees were on a lot, the City doesn't have any control . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ross said: The ordinance doesn't apply to trees on private property. Only trees on the City right of way. If the removed trees were on a lot, the City doesn't have any control . They lined the street so I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTonY Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) On 4/5/2017 at 5:46 PM, kdog08 said: They just don't provide much shade in a city that needs shade along sidewalks. That's only a problem if they are the only type of landscaping being used. But in most cases, various types of broad leaf trees are planted with the palms, so the shade requirement is never neglected. The sidewalks aren't even where I would favor as a place for palms; they look best when they spread (en-mass) across green-belts and parks, like in the photo below. Hermann Park seems like an ideal place for it: Prado in Montevideo https://www.cruisebe.com/parque-prado-montevideo-uruguay . On 4/6/2017 at 7:59 AM, Twinsanity02 said: In Houston we can grow a decent variety of palm trees from Pindos, Queens, to several varieties of fan palms some more cold hardy than others. They are beautiful and give a feeling of the tropics. For shade purposes I would think deciduous trees are better. They leaf up during the hot season and un-leaf during winter ( as brief as ours is) allowing sunlight through. The crepe myrtle if turned into a "tree shape" would look beautiful in our area. If is shade is what one wants can't beat the live oak or the magnolias that grow around here. Either way shading our streets and sidewalks would make the city a more pleasant place. The problem with deciduous trees is that they can make a landscape look quite dull when they have gone bare. But, I can accept certain varieties of subtropical/tropical origin, like the crepe myrtles, or the bald cypress. Luckily, many far ranging varieties in the US become more "semi-evergreen" in warmer climates like the South. Edited April 9, 2017 by AnTonY 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 15 hours ago, AnTonY said: That's only a problem if they are the only type of landscaping being used. But in most cases, various types of broad leaf trees are planted with the palms, so the shade requirement is never neglected. Well yes obviously as I was referring to just palm trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTonY Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, kdog08 said: Well yes obviously as I was referring to just palm trees I understand your viewpoint, I just showed why the requirements aren't necessarily neglected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, AnTonY said: I understand your viewpoint, I just showed why the requirements aren't necessarily neglected. Fair enough. Highland Village on Westheimer is a place that actually gets some foot traffic that is lined with just palm trees. Just never understood that type of streetscape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTonY Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 8 hours ago, kdog08 said: Fair enough. Highland Village on Westheimer is a place that actually gets some foot traffic that is lined with just palm trees. Just never understood that type of streetscape. It's just the palm-boulevard type of landscaping. It's quite tacky when the palms are just by themselves, without any trees (or even shrubs) in the mix, and also when they are used on the sidewalks. Medians serve as better areas to line with palms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 5 hours ago, AnTonY said: It's just the palm-boulevard type of landscaping. It's quite tacky when the palms are just by themselves, without any trees (or even shrubs) in the mix, and also when they are used on the sidewalks. Medians serve as better areas to line with palms. Maybe look glamorous, don't require much water, can grow surrounded by concrete without lifting it up, are ever-green, create focal points and don't litter a parking lot with 4 tons of leaves annually? How can a tree be tacky lol? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTonY Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) On 4/10/2017 at 6:38 AM, iah77 said: Maybe look glamorous, don't require much water, can grow surrounded by concrete without lifting it up, are ever-green, create focal points and don't litter a parking lot with 4 tons of leaves annually? How can a tree be tacky lol? If you'd have just read previous pages of this thread (or even just scrolled further up), you'd have seen that you are quoting someone who clearly supports the use of palms in landscaping, even reviving the thread just to defend their use: Anyways, "tacky" was clearly in reference to the style of planting, not to the palms themselves. I support palms in landscaping, I just feel that their presentation is better as components of a sort of "vegetation wall," well blended with trees, shrubs, and flora that are evergreen (bolded because I dislike deciduous trees, my problems with them going beyond just annual mass leaf-litter issues), rather then just them lining streets by themselves. Basically, something like Gulf Freeway: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403574,-95.354988,3a,37.5y,177.3h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC9aVuu94Gr4wwB5Y_8eGsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 And as I said in another previous post, I also feel green-belts, parks, etc (and even medians) are better areas than sidewalks for en-masse plantings of palms: Edited April 12, 2017 by AnTonY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naviguessor Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 They mowed the bulldozer scraped two blocks here at the corner of Jensen and Sydnor last week. Not sure what exactly it indicates. But, it's the first heavy equipment spotted on the site since the soil remediation completed in 2013. Also, CenterPoint re-ran all the power lines and replaced all the power poles around the site recently. Not sure if that means anything either. One more interesting thing is that I cannot figure out... A residential trailer was placed in the middle of the property and someone is living in it. It's not a construction office either. Someone with their dog lives in it. Very curious. I figure it has something to do with tax status. There appears to be no other function. Anyone know what that could be about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Naviguessor said: They mowed the bulldozer scraped two blocks here at the corner of Jensen and Sydnor last week. Not sure what exactly it indicates. But, it's the first heavy equipment spotted on the site since the soil remediation completed in 2013. Also, CenterPoint re-ran all the power lines and replaced all the power poles around the site recently. Not sure if that means anything either. One more interesting thing is that I cannot figure out... A residential trailer was placed in the middle of the property and someone is living in it. It's not a construction office either. Someone with their dog lives in it. Very curious. I figure it has something to do with tax status. There appears to be no other function. Anyone know what that could be about? Maybe it's this Special Districts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 A couple interesting observations at the KBR site. 1. So, mid size trees are being planted in a grove like fashion in the lots which were previously scraped. I've speculated that these have been removed from Midway's HEB/Washington Project and are just being stored here. I doubt the intent is to reforest the site. 2. Many of the larger weeds and wild flower areas along Bayou St, within the KBR's boundaries, have been marked with small landscape flags. Obviously this is so landscapers don't mow them down. It's nice, but I'm not sure why. Not much traffic here, except dog walkers, sleeping cops, cyclist who know how to get to the bayou trail and the people that live in the mystery trailer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fitch Posted May 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 0:01 PM, swtsig said: trees! What he said. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fitch Posted May 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) On 5/13/2017 at 10:42 AM, Naviguessor said: A couple interesting observations at the KBR site. 1. So, mid size trees are being planted in a grove like fashion in the lots which were previously scraped. I've speculated that these have been removed from Midway's HEB/Washington Project and are just being stored here. I doubt the intent is to reforest the site. 2. Many of the larger weeds and wild flower areas along Bayou St, within the KBR's boundaries, have been marked with small landscape flags. Obviously this is so landscapers don't mow them down. It's nice, but I'm not sure why. Not much traffic here, except dog walkers, sleeping cops, cyclist who know how to get to the bayou trail and the people that live in the mystery trailer. Edited May 19, 2017 by Fitch 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 ...and each little flower with its very own little flag. Thanks, Fitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Tell me more about this mystery trailer? @Fitch Edited May 22, 2017 by Chi-Char-Hou-Dal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Media Kit from Midway. eastriverHTX.com Broad in concept. Short on details. Info on the Transplanted Trees. They are coming from the Post Oak, rework. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 http://abc13.com/realestate/citycentre-developer-has-eyes-set-on-fifth-ward/2094957/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcook2002 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 nm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So this area will be called EaRi ?? (sorry) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 17 hours ago, HoustonMidtown said: So this area will be called EaRi ?? (sorry) No. it will be NoEaDo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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