Houston19514 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Interesting rumor, but wouldn't that leave Jones Hall without a tenant? No. Jones Hall is also the home of Society for the Performing Arts (SPA). I think both they and the Symphony have more performances than ever. Plus there are other traveling groups and occasional (non-resident) groups that perform in the hall. My understanding is that we have again reached the point where performance space is very tightly scheduled in the Theater District and we could use some more. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 That would be a real shame. It's the only venue I actually like.if its true hopefully it leads to the construction of a second venue that you like (you don't like the Ballet Center? for some reason i love that addition, though I've never actually been IN it).i may have to mention this to one of the people working for Houston First and see what they have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 if its true hopefully it leads to the construction of a second venue that you like (you don't like the Ballet Center? for some reason i love that addition, though I've never actually been IN it).i may have to mention this to one of the people working for Houston First and see what they have to say.It would have been nice to have it on the Lyric Center block, leaving the current block open to some residential tower that would have connectivity to the trails/parks along the bayou. But I guess that leaves both half blocks open for development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It would have been nice to have it on the Lyric Center block, leaving the current block open to some residential tower that would have connectivity to the trails/parks along the bayou. But I guess that leaves both half blocks open for development.woah. not sure what you're referring to, but I'm digging it. I've been working on my first ever sketch up for the last week or so and its for a downtown property, directly linking into the bayou trails/park system. I'm all for more pedestrian connectivity like that.which current block? yeah i agree a low rise theater expansion would be better on the Lyric Center block, since there is already a tower on it that would block views of another tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Starting from when? Are you talking about 75% of the remaining vacant lots as of today?Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 This cycle has taken up at least 16 parking lots in the C.B.D. How many does that leave? It will be a few years to absorb this cycle so at that rate I'd say 50 years. Remember this was a huge growth cycle. The last one occurred almost 40 years ago, which is hard to believe.I thend to agree. I would say 2 generations....... 40 years-ish even with another boom cycle in there.Could be 30. Could be 50. But it ain't 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Who pooped on ur pillow last night? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Careful guys and girls, we've got an internet tough guy here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Careful guys and girls, we've got an internet tough guy here. Or perhaps a very angry bot. The complaint is so non-specific and placed in a discussion that really wasn't that controversial to begin with that it might just be a lost program lookin' for love (or hate as it were). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Or perhaps a very angry bot. The complaint is so non-specific and placed in a discussion that really wasn't that controversial to begin with that it might just be a lost program lookin' for love (or hate as it were).Edit: Perhaps they were just so excited to see updates on this project and instead find us all speculating and talking nonsense. I do enjoy the speculation and nonsense. That's what really makes this a forum and not a wiki. Edited March 10, 2015 by Montrose1100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Or perhaps a very angry bot. The complaint is so non-specific and placed in a discussion that really wasn't that controversial to begin with that it might just be a lost program lookin' for love (or hate as it were).That's pretty crazy that we have the technology and basic human understanding to creat something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think it would be quite an accomplishment to max out all the blocks inside the freeways. But that would lead to questions about which direction to expand next. As it is, Midtown may be all filled up with six-story wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I think it would be quite an accomplishment to max out all the blocks inside the freeways. But that would lead to questions about which direction to expand next. As it is, Midtown may be all filled up with six-story wraps. That would be a great problem to have, but we're a long, *long* way from that. There's still plenty of vacant land is Midtown, for one thing. Edited March 11, 2015 by Texasota 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 any way to get something like a break down of construction costs for either this or Market Square Tower? where would one look for that type of info? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Cloud, I think it swings wildly due to current economic climate, supply and demand, gouging, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 youre absolutely right, but i was hoping there might be a break down of the project costs for one of these towers, to relate to for a little project im working on, given the fairly current market conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think it would be quite an accomplishment to max out all the blocks inside the freeways. But that would lead to questions about which direction to expand next. As it is, Midtown may be all filled up with six-story wraps.I think main is going to be well developed from buffalo bayou down to brays bayou. Midtown still has tons of space. I see west of main being solidly dense in the coming decade's but east of main being dense in patches. Dunno why the area around hcc isn't more active 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You'd think the area close to Herman Park and the Museum district where Hines is building the Southmore, would be ground zero for high rise multi family living. With its proximity to both downtown, the Med center, Herman Park, and Rice University, along with its proximity to the rail, I'm surprised that more hasn't been done there. Some day all of that land is going to be untouchable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Midtown seems to be attracting single family. High end single family. This is where they cram six rowhouses into a block that had one bungalow on it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 any way to get something like a break down of construction costs for either this or Market Square Tower? where would one look for that type of info? Construction companies aren't going to easily divulge that information to their competition for private ventures like this. Labor rates, Material costs, and productivity rates vary between companies, and the last thing you'd want is for your competitor to undercut you in an open bid. That beings said, while you may not be able to find specific cost estimates for skyscrapers going up now. You might be able to find some on older and perhaps more famous structures around the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I feel like the lot in front of Frank's Pizza would be a prime spot for our version of a space needle or some sort of monumental building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) You guys are being pretentious A-holes. international tower would easily be a monumental tower. by far would be the most influential tower built downtown in the last 25 years All of the examples you have are of classic architecture. Houston is Uber modern. A modern city can't be defined by an eiffle tower or a gateway arch. If anything, a city like houston will be defined by a huge shiny glass box. International tower fits they bill perfectly. Uber modern???? Uber modern???????? There is no such thing as uber modern *facepalms* So a building has a slight parabolic curve up the side that in no way influences the actual architecture of the building its merely a facade treatment and you go bananas about it? OMG it's not completely square.....revolutionary! And no the buildings that were listed above were not "classical". If you are going to argue architecture then at least read a book first and understand what you are saying. You are welcomed to love this building and think it's the greatest thing since the Penzoil Building, but understand that your opinion is in the same field of fire as everyone else and so prepare for criticism especially in an architecture forum where we are all interpreting art which is 100% subjective! However if you aren't able to both properly and reasonably defend your opinion I won't have any sympathy for you. Houston btw isn't influenced by the "glass box". It's defined by the age of curtain wall construction. the "glass box" is a watered down commercial representation of this trend. It's not special to Houston and it's not special to anywhere else. The point of the curtain wall/ all glass systems was to shake off ornamentation creating an architecture that could be anywhere in the world which was a highlight of the international style which isn't special to Houston we merely took it and ran with it for a time. Besides many of Houstons landmark buildings in the skyline are not even Modern at all, but Post-Modern which is an entirely different sensibility than the "glass-box" you are trying to stuff Houston into. Is the international tower a nicely designed building.....I don't know why don't we discuss that in the International Tower thread, maybe? In conclusion, before throwing out words like "pretentious", maybe go do a study of what you are trying to defend and try to not let your single love forever in holy matrimony for this building cloud your argument for it. Edited March 20, 2015 by Luminare 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted March 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2015 Saw what might be the future tower crane base in the middle of the old sidewalk. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 geeeez hindesky, i do hope that you were wearing a hard hat. these pics are literally in the action.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If they're putting the crane in the sidewalk, that would explain why they closed everything down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Tower crane at the 40 apt just down the street is on the sidewalk also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nate99 Posted March 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2015 Boss, boss, look...it's de crane... 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Uber modern???? Uber modern???????? There is no such thing as uber modern *facepalms* What about a 2015 Audi being used on taxi runs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kbates2 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Cranes are going up here and at Capital Garage. I think that makes 19 currently in downtown. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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