TowerSpotter Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Please tell me what is under construction in downtown Dallas. please do not include Victory park or Uptown. You should look up the Towering Inferno in Dallas. It is a mess! They don't what to do that building. Nasher should move his sculpture Center here where they are building the addition on the MFA. We have much more museums here then Dallas. There is nothing on construction in downtown Dallas but there are some proposals. Edit: I think i found the link to the forum nativehoustonian was talking about. http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php/103200-Supertalls Edited August 4, 2013 by TowerSpotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The occupancy rate of downtown Dallas is 30%? Ha. I think you mean the VACANCY rate is 30%. If you are going to talk smack, you might want to learn the difference between occupancy and vacancy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Nativehoustonion's post sounds like that of a rambling homeless person. I especially liked the totally off topic jab regarding dallas' museums. KA is right - VACANCY in cbd Dallas is in the 30% range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Is this tower likely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Is this tower likely? Put simply, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Dear SWTSIG I'm not homeless in live off Alabama and Revere if you know where that is. I also own properties in all over Houston. We do have more museums than Dallas. I'll stay on the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Are you related to Slick Vic? How many cars do you own? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) ZKB9 from slyscrapercity says he remembers reading about an office/residential tower taking up a parking lot near minuemaid. Could be maybe the 102 story tower or the mixed-use tower by Kurd, maybe the 102 story tower is the mixed/use tower by kurd. Anyways I asked him if he was talking about the rumored 102 story tower and he said:ZBK9: "I hear there's an office building or something planned near Minute Maid Park, does anyone have more info on this?"Me: "ZBK9 you are not talking about the 102 story one right?"ZBK9: "I actually don't know. I just remember reading about some sort of office/residential building being built on a current parking lot near Minute Maid. Is it a 102 story tower? That would be incredible for the area."http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=147895&page=45 Edited August 23, 2013 by TowerSpotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 google "Ballpark Place" or, better yet, search for it on here. It was a 34 floor mixed-use tower that was proposed for years. Heck, the sign was out in the empty lot for about 8 years or so after Enron/Minute Maid opened. That lot is now gone. It's part of the Fingers' apartments under construction right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 google "Ballpark Place" or, better yet, search for it on here. It was a 34 floor mixed-use tower that was proposed for years. Heck, the sign was out in the empty lot for about 8 years or so after Enron/Minute Maid opened.That lot is now gone. It's part of the Fingers' apartments under construction right now.Hopefully he's not talking about this one. I think its rescent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzBuzzDylan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) There is nothing on construction in downtown Dallas but there are some proposals. Edit: I think i found the link to the forum nativehoustonian was talking about. http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php/103200-SupertallsDowntown Dallas actually has more high-rise residential under construction than Houston. You can see all the current projects on BuzzBuzzHome for either Dallas or Houston. I'd be highly suspicious of any plans for a 50 story+ tower of any type (mixed use, res, office) let alone a 102 story tower in any city in Texas right now. I mean it would be awesome (check out this recent article about the benefits of supertalls ) and they are often used to spur development in an area, but at the crux of it all you have to have immense urban growth, or at least pent up demand for it. I've recently finished adding all new construction projects in Texas (void of rentals) to our site, and the number of low-rise, suburban ones dwarf anything in urban areas. On the subject of skinny towers, One Madison in New York is 60 storeys but super skinny, but the real kicker is 107 West 57th, its 1350 feet high and skinnier than most builds that are barely over ten storeys! Actually crazy if you look at the renderings. But yes, it's absurdly expensive to build on skinny lots or just skinny in general. Main reason is that building one more floor costs more and more as you go higher (greater feat of engineering, more things to consider, harder to build higher) so developers want to maximize their floorspace per floor to make sure that they can turn a profit. In Houston, skinny projects will probably only happen if and ever becomes very squeezed, which probably will never happen Edited September 19, 2013 by BuzzBuzzDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Downtown Dallas actually has more high-rise residential under construction than Houston. You can see all the current projects on BuzzBuzzHome for either Dallas or Houston. Not true. Downtown Dallas actually has zero high-rise residential projects under construction. There are 2 or 3 projects in the Uptown and Victory Park areas adjacent to downtown, but none downtown. Edited September 19, 2013 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Downtown Dallas actually has more high-rise residential under construction than Houston. You can see all the current projects on BuzzBuzzHome for either Dallas or Houston. I'd be highly suspicious of any plans for a 50 story+ tower of any type (mixed use, res, office) let alone a 102 story tower in any city in Texas right now. I mean it would be awesome (check out this recent article about the benefits of supertalls ) and they are often used to spur development in an area, but at the crux of it all you have to have immense urban growth, or at least pent up demand for it. I've recently finished adding all new construction projects in Texas (void of rentals) to our site, and the number of low-rise, suburban ones dwarf anything in urban areas. On the subject of skinny towers, One Madison in New York is 60 storeys but super skinny, but the real kicker is 107 West 57th, its 1350 feet high and skinnier than most builds that are barely over ten storeys! Actually crazy if you look at the renderings. But yes, it's absurdly expensive to build on skinny lots or just skinny in general. Main reason is that building one more floor costs more and more as you go higher (greater feat of engineering, more things to consider, harder to build higher) so developers want to maximize their floorspace per floor to make sure that they can turn a profit. In Houston, skinny projects will probably only happen if and ever becomes very squeezed, which probably will never happen I was not talking about residential proposals, I was talking about all sorts of projects(residential, mix-use, etc). Houston flat out has more than Dallas. Not true. Downtown Dallas actually has zero high-rise residential projects under construction. There are 2 or 3 projects in the Uptown and Victory Park areas adjacent to downtown, but none downtown. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 He is promoting his website. The last residential highrise to go up in downtown Dallas was the Museum tower fiasco and that was a few years back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Vik Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Are you related to Slick Vic? How many cars do you own? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 One of my vendors. His company provides equipment necessary for any high rises, so they're always part of the bidding processes. He said they have quarterly meetings to discuss projects they're bidding on and what's in the pipeline.I can't remember if he said they actually bid on this one or not. Let me contact him.Edit: he said they haven't bid on it. It's just plannedCould you touch base with him and see if anything has changed in the last 3 months? I know this project is a (very) long shot, but it doesn't hurt to hope! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I too have heard rumblings about this sort of project... I have a friend who works for a large engineering firm, and they were talking with some oil rich developers who are buddies with the engineering firms owner and proposals around town. Needless to say they had discussed doing something taller than anything else in Texas and I thought perhaps that this is the group who have been generating interest from a lot of sources about a 100+ floor tower? At the last discussion with my friend he said it is doubtful those same developers were actually going to do anything near the scale they had tentatively discussed. I could be wrong, but I would imagine this is the same group that originated the rumblings of said 102 floor tower? Perhaps there are two groups who've discussed doing something like this? At any rate - I doubt very much it will happen. As there were plenty of buildings proposed in the 1980s that were 300m or taller and they didn't get off the ground (sadly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 There is nothing going in downtown Dallas. Elm Place has been sitting there empty and ugly and they don't know what that building. It is 628 feet and 52 floors. Then there is the Museum Towering Inferno is also a fiasco! 30% percent of their buildings in downtown are empty. And they are proud of that stupid bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm confused... is the thread now about Dallas? Or the proposed 102 floor highrise that has been oft mentioned in various Houston development forums/websites and even the Chronicle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm confused... is the thread now about Dallas? Or the proposed 102 floor highrise that has been oft mentioned in various Houston development forums/websites and even the Chronicle? I think he's looking back at older comments, but yea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm confused... is the thread now about Dallas? Or the proposed 102 floor highrise that has been oft mentioned in various Houston development forums/websites and even the Chronicle? Looks like we have a new mod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I was confused. I think I should have been more clear in my own post about the proposed 102 floor tower. I just "up" and posted without context (except to the title of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I know a corporate realtor from Cushman and Wakefield. Last year a developer was looking for a lot near the Ballpark. That area is out of the height restrictions. He said no transactions were made. Since they build the Dynamo Stadium land prices have gone over the roof. He would not tell who, but he said with the tax abatements the developer is searching again. Please don't be Trump! He will not tell me because I have a big mouth! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Nope, just two. Back when the original HAIF was around I lied and told everyone I worked for EDI, when I was only 13 or so.... Just thought I'd be honest, now that I'm somewhat an adult. I also lied to Dalparadise about owning a Townhome on Blossom (It was my dad's). I think we argued about it for an entire page on a topic.Anyways I said there were originally four planned, which I based that off of an article I had read about possibly doing more projects in the area.Can you all forgive me?Never. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Houston will probably get a supertall again but I don't think over 100 stories. Edited December 14, 2013 by Sellanious Caesar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 100+ floors is inevitable. With enough time we'll see 200+ towers going up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) I think the office tower boom is coming to a close. There's something like 13 million square feet either under construction or proposed. It'll be a few years to get them filled up, probably 2016-2017 we'll see the next round of office construction. Maybe as it stands a couple of more towers will be proposed. The hotel and residential construction on the other hand I think will keep going. Houston's joined Chicago of consistently having residential construction, even in modest times economically.For the next supertall (either 1,000 feet OR 300 meters) it will probably have to be mixed use residential and hotel component, maybe a bit of office thrown in, to get off the ground anytime in the next several years. Edited December 14, 2013 by Sellanious Caesar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I think the office tower boom is coming to a close. There's something like 13 million square feet either under construction or proposed. It'll be a few years to get them filled up, probably 2016-2017 we'll see the next round of office construction. Maybe as it stands a couple of more towers will be proposed. The hotel and residential construction on the other hand I think will keep going. Houston's joined Chicago of consistently having residential construction, even in modest times economically.For the next supertall (either 1,000 feet OR 300 meters) it will probably have to be mixed use residential and hotel component, maybe a bit of office thrown in, to get off the ground anytime in the next several years.We still have a few ones coming in...they just havent been announced yet. Definetly agree, Houston seems to throw more towers out even though it feels like the wave of projects is almost over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I would hope we don't get a supertall. We need 2 50-stories, or 4 25-stories, or, honestly, 20 5-stories way more than we need some symbolic supertall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I would hope we don't get a supertall. We need 2 50-stories, or 4 25-stories, or, honestly, 20 5-stories way more than we need some symbolic supertall.Exocet those 20 5-stories are in the Energy Corridor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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