lockmat Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I posted this in the 102-story thread, but this is too exciting not to have its own. The only disappointment I might have with it is if it is not downtown. If it is, the sky is the limit for downtown. It will be a paradigm shift for Houstonians opinion of our cbd. From Bisnow:Kurt (whose office is designing 7M SF totaling $1B across property types) proved his prowess as a prognosticator. During last year's event, he predicted mixed-use would grow. (Now we call him every day for the weather and the trifecta winners at the horse track.) He was right, but there's been a shift within that sector from horizontal to vertical mixed-use. The facilities are high-rises with product types stacked on top of each other—Ziegler Cooper is designing two of these, one in Houston and one in Austin. The Houston facility will include multifamily, hotel, retail, and office components. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 very cool.. thanks for posting. cant wait to see what the renderings and find out more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Lockmat, don't be so trigger happy! While this could become potentially wonderful news, it's not "going up". Unless you are not telling us something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well let me just rain on the parade already.My journalistic source said the one in Austin is not that tall and the office component in Houston may be a separate project. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Lockmat, don't be so trigger happy! While this could become potentially wonderful news, it's not "going up". Unless you are not telling us something...I have nothin else. Where should we put it? "Other Houston?" Edited July 26, 2013 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well if they make a 683 ft residential skyscraper for downtown Houston that'd be pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well if they make a 683 ft residential skyscraper for downtown Houston that'd be pretty sweet. Do you have a fascination with such a specific number or do you know something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Do you have a fascination with such a specific number or do you know something?  That's the height of the Austonian.  I too would love to see something like that in downtown Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 maybe "architects, developers, and designs?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 maybe "architects, developers, and designs?"Fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I'd prefer it to stay in this section. Sounds like something actually planned, not a rumor. http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/houston/why-build-now/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I just don't understand the use of mega in the thread title. Yes, they say it'll have office, residential, hotel, and retail which could make for a pretty big project, but that doesn't mean it will be a "mega development"(if that means anything).  Add parking into the mixed-use mix, though, and it'll probably be pretty mega. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt16 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I just don't understand the use of mega in the thread title. Yes, they say it'll have office, residential, hotel, and retail which could make for a pretty big project, but that doesn't mean it will be a "mega development"(if that means anything). Add parking into the mixed-use mix, though, and it'll probably be pretty mega. The truth is it'll probably not be anything other than a grand idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) I just don't understand the use of mega in the thread title. Yes, they say it'll have office, residential, hotel, and retail which could make for a pretty big project, but that doesn't mean it will be a "mega development"(if that means anything). Add parking into the mixed-use mix, though, and it'll probably be pretty mega. Maybe I went a liiiitle overboard with mega, but if it has all four components, what other building in Houston has all those? None.I would expect 2 stories of retail, 300 rental units (8-10 stories), 250 hotel rooms (8-12 stories) and 10 stories of office. So 30ish stories, maybe not mega but the combination kinda makes it mega Edited July 27, 2013 by lockmat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Maybe I went a liiiitle overboard with mega, but if it has all our components, what other building in Houston has all those? None. I would expect 2 stories of retail, 300 rental units (8-10 stories), 250 hotel rooms (8-12 stories) and 10 stories of office. So 30ish stories, maybe not mega but the combination kinda makes it mega  If that's the way it would be I wouldn't mind it  Building's rising on every corner in Houston. Edited July 27, 2013 by TowerSpotter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Maybe I went a liiiitle overboard with mega, but if it has all four components, what other building in Houston has all those? None. I would expect 2 stories of retail, 300 rental units (8-10 stories), 250 hotel rooms (8-12 stories) and 10 stories of office. So 30ish stories, maybe not mega but the combination kinda makes it mega 300 apartments in only 8-10 stories? I would expect at least twice that many stories. For example: The Sovereign. 290 apts. 21stories. Is there any particular reason you expect rental rather than for sale? Edited July 27, 2013 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 300 apartments in only 8-10 stories? I would expect at least twice that many stories. For example: The Sovereign. 290 apts. 21stories.Is there any particular reason you expect rental rather than for sale?No reason at all, just a guess.I guess I was thinking 8-10 because that's what most are, but then again those mid-rises are much more horizontal than a high rise. You're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I wonder if this is the same development as the one that is rumored for the Memorial City area.http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28427-possible-new-mixed-use-development-in-memorial-city/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I wonder if this is the same development as the one that is rumored for the Memorial City area.http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28427-possible-new-mixed-use-development-in-memorial-city/ Doesn't seem like it. One is Ziegler Cooper architects. The other is Munoz Albin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 Doesn't seem like it. One is Ziegler Cooper architects. The other is Munoz Albin.Bisnow reported a correction in their deal sheet that Gensler was actually the master planner.http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/houston/the-deal-sheet-hou-072313/?utm_campaign=houre_072313.htm&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 What's with all the subforum nazis around here recently? I've seen more people complain about something not belonging in 'going up' in the last 2 weeks that I have in the previous 5 years. Just press 'new content' button .... Who the hell even searches by sub forum. Annoying as crap. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You can fix that with Pamprin, you know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) What's with all the subforum nazis around here recently? I've seen more people complain about something not belonging in 'going up' in the last 2 weeks that I have in the previous 5 years. Just press 'new content' button .... Who the hell even searches by sub forum. Annoying as crap.Gee whiz could it be because Houston has seen a surge of activity? Could it also be that I'm way too lazy to do as suggested? Could I also be a hypocrite complaining about your bitching about my bitching?It's just annoying to me that posters who post useful information and pictures about developments actually going up get lost and don't post when the sub forum is filled with project topics that have a tooth pick for a backbone. Don't know about you but I have not contributed to this site 99% of the time when I post something. However, I have left skyscrapercity and skyscraperpage because its a penis size contest and city vs. city. Filled with renderings pretending to be actual projects to show off.So when I see this on my beloved HAIF, it annoys me enough to say something. But I do see your point, so I guess this is kind of pointless. Edited July 28, 2013 by Montrose1100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I wonder if this has anything to do with the site being marketed by Houston First just north of the new Convention Center Hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 ^Â That crossed my mind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I wonder if this has anything to do with the site being marketed by Houston First just north of the new Convention Center Hotel. just north of the Marriott Marquis? that area has been marked as "residential' in the Houston downtown Development Map for a little while. is this the same project? and if so will it only be residential? i know you said the office component may be separate, lockmat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoothrewpoo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The Austin project is likely the Planetarium Tower... although I seem to recall it being HOK and not ZC. From ConstructionWire: Plans call for the construction of a new 47-story, 801,800-square-foot building for the Austin Planetarium with retail and restaurant space, residential units, a museum and technology center and a subterranean parking structure. Not sure what the Houston project may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The Austin project is likely the Planetarium Tower... although I seem to recall it being HOK and not ZC. From ConstructionWire:Plans call for the construction of a new 47-story, 801,800-square-foot building for the Austin Planetarium with retail and restaurant space, residential units, a museum and technology center and a subterranean parking structure.Not sure what the Houston project may be.Yeah. Pretty sure the planetarium project is HOK. Plus, Lockmat previously clarified that the Austin ZC project is "not that tall". So . . . probably a different project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) The Austin project is likely the Planetarium Tower... although I seem to recall it being HOK and not ZC. From ConstructionWire:Plans call for the construction of a new 47-story, 801,800-square-foot building for the Austin Planetarium with retail and restaurant space, residential units, a museum and technology center and a subterranean parking structure. Not sure what the Houston project may be. Yeah. Pretty sure the planetarium project is HOK. Plus, Lockmat previously clarified that the Austin ZC project is "not that tall". So . . . probably a different project. And wasn't the planetarium project cancelled? Also, I was told the Houston one wasn't that tall :/ Edited August 7, 2013 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 The Austin project is likely the Planetarium Tower... although I seem to recall it being HOK and not ZC. From ConstructionWire: Plans call for the construction of a new 47-story, 801,800-square-foot building for the Austin Planetarium with retail and restaurant space, residential units, a museum and technology center and a subterranean parking structure. Not sure what the Houston project may be. How recent is that article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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