Houston19514 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, trymahjong said: Wait……….didn’t MMR “revive “ itself? Otherwise I’m confused who has been attending Neartown zooms. ……..or maybe the new MMD wasn’t given the lights to look af? I don't know. You've been attending all these meetings... You tell us. ;-) I can find nothing that says the Management District has been reconstituted. Perhaps you're thinking of the Montrose TIRZ? FWIW, here's a list of Neartown's Member Organizations (notice no Montrose Management District): Audubon Place Association Avondale Association Castle Court Neighborhood Association Cherryhurst Civic Association East Montrose Civic Association First Montrose Commons Neighborhood Association Hyde Park Civic Association Lancaster Place Civic Association Mandell Place Civic Association North Montrose Civic Association Park Civic Association (no website) Richwood Place Civic Association Roseland Estates Civic Association (no website) Vermont Commons Civic Association WAMM Civic Association Westmoreland Civic Association Winlow Place Civic Club Edited June 17, 2022 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Uhm..........Neartown is a Superneighborhood .....#24 Only the civic clubs within "Montrose" would be on any list. However, other organizations do attend; HPD/PIP, reps from District C, reps from Churches, people running for office etc.It is an easy place (monthly zoom meeting) to get information on what is happening with developments, streets, crime etc. I do attend most meetings, along with 20-40 other people=> each signing up (if needs be) to give a 2-3 schpel of yadada. It's a long meeting,where remembering just who has spoken gets confusing for me. So yes, Steve Madden did speak last winter about reviving the MMD. It seemed to me to be mostly the same staff and people. I guess I was wrong to assume that "reviving" might not have included management of bridge lights of 59. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Here's some news on the Bridge Lighting -- A report was given at Houston First's Operations Committee meeting in April: "The bridges were a partnership project between TxDOT, Montrose Management District ("MMD") and Houston Galveston Area Council with a $3.5 Million budget. The lights were initially turned on just before Super Bowl LI in 2017. MMD was responsible for maintaining the bridges [sic], but was dissolved in 2018, resulting in the City of Houston transferring the responsibility of the lighting system on the bridges to Houston First in early 2019. Shortly before taking over the responsibility, deterioration of the lighting system was noticed. It will cost approximately $1.5 million to make the lights operable and $90,000 a year to operate and maintain. The president/CEO emphasized that this project is not within the mission of HFC but the increase costs will need to be considered when planning the budget." So, at least it's on someone's radar... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) It would be foolish to not have these working before 2026. I know that's a while away but knowing this city, they would literally wait till the week of the World Cup to get them repaired. This is good news though that it's being considered for the yearly budget. Edited June 23, 2022 by j_cuevas713 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Does anyone have any information on the Arches over 59 lighting. It seems that they have all but let them go and it is beginning to look very tacky tacky at night. They are starting to have the resemblance of that old neon tavern sign that is half lit and blinking like it is ready to go out. For a while, Post 2017 and pre-covid, Houston seemed like it had invested in itself on more monuments and appearance. Well, it seems like they have given up now. If anyone has any intel on this or if there are plans to improve this, it would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Topic has been discussed here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 19 hours ago, scarface said: Does anyone have any information on the Arches over 59 lighting. It seems that they have all but let them go and it is beginning to look very tacky tacky at night. They are starting to have the resemblance of that old neon tavern sign that is half lit and blinking like it is ready to go out. For a while, Post 2017 and pre-covid, Houston seemed like it had invested in itself on more monuments and appearance. Well, it seems like they have given up now. If anyone has any intel on this or if there are plans to improve this, it would be much appreciated. I was told after the freeze that the city would coordinate with the company that did the lighting and that they would have a plan to get them working again. That was last November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 20 hours ago, scarface said: Does anyone have any information on the Arches over 59 lighting. It seems that they have all but let them go and it is beginning to look very tacky tacky at night. They are starting to have the resemblance of that old neon tavern sign that is half lit and blinking like it is ready to go out. For a while, Post 2017 and pre-covid, Houston seemed like it had invested in itself on more monuments and appearance. Well, it seems like they have given up now. If anyone has any intel on this or if there are plans to improve this, it would be much appreciated. Here's some news on the Bridge Lighting -- A report was given at Houston First's Operations Committee meeting in April: "The bridges were a partnership project between TxDOT, Montrose Management District ("MMD") and Houston Galveston Area Council with a $3.5 Million budget. The lights were initially turned on just before Super Bowl LI in 2017. MMD was responsible for maintaining the bridges [sic], but was dissolved in 2018, resulting in the City of Houston transferring the responsibility of the lighting system on the bridges to Houston First in early 2019. Shortly before taking over the responsibility, deterioration of the lighting system was noticed. It will cost approximately $1.5 million to make the lights operable and $90,000 a year to operate and maintain. The president/CEO emphasized that this project is not within the mission of HFC but the increase costs will need to be considered when planning the budget." So, at least it's on someone's radar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 FINALLLLLLYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/arts-culture-news/2023/02/01/442799/broken-montrose-59-69-southwest-freeway-bridge-lights/?fbclid=IwAR2AzBovym69c38gyvoufqjhqPUYoofOCknZCqL5GWgFva98p5dbmUBwgh8 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbg.50 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said: FINALLLLLLYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/arts-culture-news/2023/02/01/442799/broken-montrose-59-69-southwest-freeway-bridge-lights/?fbclid=IwAR2AzBovym69c38gyvoufqjhqPUYoofOCknZCqL5GWgFva98p5dbmUBwgh8 That article ended on an ominous note…they might not do anything with the lights if the freeway is going to be reconstructed as part of the I-45 project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, steve1363 said: That article ended on an ominous note…they might not do anything with the lights if the freeway is going to be reconstructed as part of the I-45 project. Yeah I saw that. I didn't know the I-45 project involved this section of 59 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, j_cuevas713 said: Yeah I saw that. I didn't know the I-45 project involved this section of 59 as well. Yeah were 59 goes above ground they're sinking it all the way through downtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 That shouldn't affect the bridges though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, hindesky said: That shouldn't affect the bridges though. It could depending on how the electrical is tied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I think there might be something with the Montrose bridge affected, but the other bridges should not be affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, rechlin said: I think there might be something with the Montrose bridge affected, but the other bridges should not be affected. As I recall, the Montrose bridge was originally going to be demolished and rebuilt, but the route was tweaked ever-so-slightly to avoid that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 TxDot originally (way before COVID) planned to raise the bridge higher as the plan also included lowering 527 along with lowering 59 where it crossed Main, Fannin and San Jacinto-- then putting a "cap" over the lowered parts. TxDot made no provision for improvements of the surface caps. The Civic associations of Montrose along with those south of 59 formed a coalition( Similar I guess to coalition Ashby) against to protest. Since then TxDot had wayleighed those plans. Is this a new TxDot plan for Montrose bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutchcity94 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, trymahjong said: TxDot originally (way before COVID) planned to raise the bridge higher as the plan also included lowering 527 along with lowering 59 where it crossed Main, Fannin and San Jacinto-- then putting a "cap" over the lowered parts. TxDot made no provision for improvements of the surface caps. The Civic associations of Montrose along with those south of 59 formed a coalition( Similar I guess to coalition Ashby) against to protest. Since then TxDot had wayleighed those plans. Is this a new TxDot plan for Montrose bridge? But wouldn’t lowering that section of 529 and the Spur be in the best interest of residents that live there? In other words, doesn’t sinking it reduce the noise and the eyesore of looking at a freeway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) More bad journalism. The I-45 project doesn’t touch this part of the Southwest Freeway/I-69. Re: other posts above, FWIW, I don't believe there was ever a plan to lower Spur 527. The original plan regarding the Montrose bridge was to replace it because it needed to be lengthened, not raised. They reconfigured things a bit to avoid having to lengthen it. Edited February 2, 2023 by Houston19514 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: More bad journalism. The I-45 project doesn’t touch this part of the Southwest Freeway. It does the trenching 59 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, kennyc05 said: It does the trenching 59 as well. Huh? The area where they will be trenching I-69/US59 is east and north of Montrose - not in the area where these bridges are located. The I-45 project/NHHIP (which includes trenching further parts of I-69/US59) does not impact these bridges. In addition to getting that part completely wrong, the "journalist" missed the relevant part related to NHHIP. There will be additional bridges of the same design over the newly-trenched parts of I-69/US59 that presumably will have the same lighting. Edited February 2, 2023 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 35 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: Huh? The area where they will be trenching I-69/US59 is east and north of Montrose - not in the area where these bridges are located. The I-45 project/NHHIP (which includes trenching further parts of I-69/US59) does not impact these bridges. In addition to getting that part completely wrong, the "journalist" missed the relevant part related to NHHIP. There will be additional bridges of the same design over the newly-trenched parts of I-69/US59 that presumably will have the same lighting. The start of the trenching starts at spur 527 where 59 becomes elevated out of the original trench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutchcity94 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, kennyc05 said: The start of the trenching starts at spur 527 where 59 becomes elevated out of the original trench. So the elevated part of 59 next to the new 6-floor storage unit near the Montrose bridge will be lowered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, kennyc05 said: The start of the trenching starts at spur 527 where 59 becomes elevated out of the original trench. Yeah. We know. And that is not where these bridges are located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, clutchcity94 said: So the elevated part of 59 next to the new 6-floor storage unit near the Montrose bridge will be lowered? The freeway is still below grade when it passes next to the new 6-story storage building. But, yes, instead of rising from that point as it goes east, it will continue below grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, clutchcity94 said: But wouldn’t lowering that section of 529 and the Spur be in the best interest of residents that live there? In other words, doesn’t sinking it reduce the noise and the eyesore of looking at As a resident who could can actually hear the traffic noise currently on a clear night- no I don't think TxDot has my best interest at heart- no I have my suspicions that noise will not be reduced ---no the idea of a huge blank cap over the sunken spur will no elevate the beautification of my neighborhood. Edited February 2, 2023 by trymahjong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, trymahjong said: As a resident who could can actually hear the traffic noise currently on a clear night- no I don't think TxDot has my best interest at heart- no I have my suspicions that noise will not be reduced ---no the idea of a huge blank cap over the sunken spur will no elevate the beautification of my neighborhood. Then I guess it's a good thing there are no plans to sink the spur. 😉 Edited February 2, 2023 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 Oh my guess my soapbox was squeaking? Maybe it's the let's-all-attend-this-TxDot( or City Council or Metro)public meeting and let them-hear-from-the-people-in-the neighborhood fatigue. After a while all those meetings over the years sorta jute-up in your memory. Yup, I did take notes but who am I kidding....my handwriting is indecipherable. Everyone wants to stay current on the topic but aging can make recalling details fuzzy -.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Does the city have enough common sense to turn these lights off during the hosting of the Final Four? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 23 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: Does the city have enough common sense to turn these lights off during the hosting of the Final Four? Of course not 💀 at this point, we're better off creating a gofund me and fixing it ourselves 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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