JoninATX Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) When is Hines Market Square suppost to start? I remember they closed the parking lot a month ago. Edited April 9, 2014 by JoninATX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Haha, thanks for the comments yall! I was procrastinating a jazz test online lol, got an A, so no worries. Lemme know if I've missed anything or would like to see something added. All I need is a height and address for the most part. Hmmmm... Is it possible to label them? I pretty much know most of them but there are maybe 2 im not sure of. Great work BTW! I love stuff like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Here's a development map for all of Houston. The best thing about it is that anyone can add a project to the map, and it's pretty easy to use. I've added quite a few, hope you guys contribute as well. http://devmap.io/cities/houston/developments 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clexmond Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Here's a development map for all of Houston. The best thing about it is that anyone can add a project to the map, and it's pretty easy to use. I've added quite a few, hope you guys contribute as well. http://devmap.io/cities/houston/developments I am the owner / builder of http://devmap.io and I'm really excited to see all of your contributions! Please feel free to give any feedback / suggestions, I want to make devmap.io a really simple, collaborative reference for all things development. Also, if you'd like an easier to remember way to get to Houston's map you can use http://houston.devmap.io. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Looking at that development map and then looking at what all is happening in Atlanta and I must admit I'm actually bummed we don't have some more significant buildings being built here. Seems like the same tired old cliche about Houston architecture being true... Take away what Hines is doing and its really quite sad actually considering just HOW much money is being pumped into this city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Looking at that development map and then looking at what all is happening in Atlanta and I must admit I'm actually bummed we don't have some more significant buildings being built here. Seems like the same tired old cliche about Houston architecture being true... Take away what Hines is doing and its really quite sad actually considering just HOW much money is being pumped into this city. Can you post a couple of examples or a link to whats going on in Atlanta? Can we hope for more with HOK - Chevron Tower? Oil and Gas companies just tend to be extremely conservative. It would be nice to see some development from another source - hoping to see some really groundbreaking (pun intended) designs that are attention grabbing. Hotel Alessandra / 609 Main will help. Even the Weslyan tower will help. The ante in Houston needs to be upped. If this economic success can be sustained, we may be lucky enough to see something. Another thought to keep in mind, the buildings we are seeing are about 1-3 years old. That is right when the economy was picking back up. I hope the next few years we will see the product of serious investment and creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I guess I'm just bummed that ATL's downtown has a lot more residential than Houston. Their residential buildings - and a few commercial buildings are more innovative than just about anything we have. Go click on the map and center around the Downtown area, they have a lot of nice proposals under works. 609 is nice - but I would hardly call it ground breaking (considering Hines did Pennzoil/Transco/Republic Bank). Hotel Alessandra is nice too. All the buildings except Chevron in Downtown are spec buildings, so I won't blame oil companies conservative design nature (if they are indeed) on those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clexmond Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Honestly, I'm actually pretty impressed with the state of Houston development. I wasn't expecting to see as many strong proposals as I did. I'm also jealous of the grid. Atlanta's is inconsistent at best which makes for some interesting challenges when it comes to building a lively urban area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 ^Yes, we're not doing bad - I just wanted a few more projects in and around the downtown area. Atlanta has a better topography than Houston. The hills are interesting and add a challenge in developing anything, of course we have the water in Galveston Bay but that area is soo heavily industrialized it has made development there very difficult. No one wants a view of a petrochemical plant afterall! But that same industrial base is what makes this the strongest economy in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I guess I'm just bummed that ATL's downtown has a lot more residential than Houston. Their residential buildings - and a few commercial buildings are more innovative than just about anything we have. Go click on the map and center around the Downtown area, they have a lot of nice proposals under works. 609 is nice - but I would hardly call it ground breaking (considering Hines did Pennzoil/Transco/Republic Bank). Hotel Alessandra is nice too. All the buildings except Chevron in Downtown are spec buildings, so I won't blame oil companies conservative design nature (if they are indeed) on those. You must be looking at a different development map than I am. I don't see anything in Atlanta developments on that map that is better than ours and there is a whole lot less of it (including downtown residential) than on the Houston map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rellott Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I am the owner / builder of http://devmap.io and I'm really excited to see all of your contributions! Please feel free to give any feedback / suggestions, I want to make devmap.io a really simple, collaborative reference for all things development. Also, if you'd like an easier to remember way to get to Houston's map you can use http://houston.devmap.io. Well, this woulda been nice to know!!! Greatly appreciate the openness to sharing. Collaboration is key. HAIF 2017!!! Sorry, I got carried away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) sorry. off topic.post deleted Edited April 11, 2014 by LarryDierker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Here's a development map for all of Houston. The best thing about it is that anyone can add a project to the map, and it's pretty easy to use. I've added quite a few, hope you guys contribute as well. http://devmap.io/cities/houston/developments You'll probably want to pin that to your first comment of this thread. It's already starting to get buried! Based on that development map, there is just no love for the east side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Atlanta is ahead of Houston in residential downtown. And some of their proposals are quite nice. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscats35 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 arche_757 are you adding Midtown Atlanta with Downtown Atlanta... I can't see much of any new residential in downtown Atlanta except for the skyhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Yeah, I'm including both. Still, Atlanta has some nice projects. And remember folks - potential or planned doesn't mean anything until dirt is being moved and a crane is put up. How often have we seen "potential" buildings not come to fruition in the past? Very often. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 You'll probably want to pin that to your first comment of this thread. It's already starting to get buried! Based on that development map, there is just no love for the east side! I may just replace the list with the map, downtown map and relotts images. The list will still be available, you'll just have to go over to SkyscraperPage for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Why not have both? I like the list. The map requires clicking on each individually to see them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkp5 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Atlanta's midtown and downtown are connected by continuous development, so I think it is fair to compare them to downtown Houston. Looking at the two maps, it looks like downtown Houston and midtown+downtown Atlanta have about the same number of total projects, but Atlanta has much more high rise residential buildings proposed. I think that Uptown and Upper Kirby are the most to blame for downtown lacking in high rise residentials compared to Atlanta. While I might give a slight edge to Atlanta in overall building design, I still think 609 Main is better than anything proposed in Atlanta. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I may just replace the list with the map, downtown map and relotts images. The list will still be available, you'll just have to go over to SkyscraperPage for it. No! Keep the list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Yes, I like the list the most 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Yeah, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Atlanta's midtown and downtown are connected by continuous development, so I think it is fair to compare them to downtown Houston. Looking at the two maps, it looks like downtown Houston and midtown+downtown Atlanta have about the same number of total projects, but Atlanta has much more high rise residential buildings proposed. I think that Uptown and Upper Kirby are the most to blame for downtown lacking in high rise residentials compared to Atlanta. While I might give a slight edge to Atlanta in overall building design, I still think 609 Main is better than anything proposed in Atlanta.Atlanta has an established pattern of residential high rises in Midtown that makes more ambitious development possible. Downtown Houston just got into this with One Park Place. I'm just happy that we have the proposals we do; if we can get those off the ground, the progress will be extraordinary and then we can talk about the next level. Edited April 14, 2014 by H-Town Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Atlanta is ahead of Houston in residential downtown. And some of their proposals are quite nice. Just my opinion.What I envy most about those is the concentration of new projects in Midtown. They are really building an urban environment there block by block, while our high rises are scattered between Uptown, Downtown, Upper Kirby, and all over. I still wouldn't trade our downtown and its more big city feel; Midtown Atlanta doesn't synergize with their Downtown, it's too far to walk, and their downtown lacks our mass of buildings and tight street grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 At the end of 2013, 274 million square feet of office space in Houston Market. 11 million square feet of new office space under construction. (This number seems different from different sources) I would forecast at least another 5 million must be going up this year.http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Market-Trend-Houstons-Office-Deliveries-Construction-and-Inventory/157185What year did/does the Exxon sq footage hit? If it's when it's completed, that's 3 million sq ft right there. Downtown will have ~2.5-3 mil sq ft of office u/c with 609 Main, 6HC, capital tower (though I guess that one technically isn't u/c yet), and Hilcorp. Then aren't there a handful of new towers in the EC? Energy center 3, 4, and 5, energy towers 3 and 4, and at town & country aren't they building one or two high rises?The new Phillips 66 complex (2 mil sq ft I believe), then the two projects further south around beltway and Richmond.How many office buildings are going up in Hughes landing? Then there is the research(?) complex across the lake with a handful of new office buildings.Actually I just reread your comment. Maybe you meant 5 mil of new projects would go up this year, not counting the 5-10 mil sq ft that carry over from last year. In which case I agree. I wonder how much office space was under construction in Houston in the early 80s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I talked to a friend from Atlanta. He said nobody wants to live the city. That is why Atlanta's population is 443,775 number 40 on the populated list. Everyone else live in the burbs. Ted Turner wants to move the Braves to Cobb County. Is there a reason why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Here's the new downtown development map: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3721/13912898155_4787082091_b.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) 609 Main is 41 floors now? How accurate are the floor counts on these things? I noticed that too and wondered the same thing. Is this a new update or have they failed to update it from the original announced height and square footage? EDIT: The previous version of this development map had it listed as 47 stories and 1 Million square feet. Hines and Colvill websites still say it's 48 stories and 1,000,000 + square feet. There appears to be a linkage problem that brings up a prior version of Colvill's 609 Main at Texas website. If you do a Google search for 609 Main, then click on the first result (Colvill's 609 Main website, then click on "Click to Enter". This takes you to a page that says the building is 41 stories and 815,000 square feet (the old numbers). But then when you try to click further into the site, it takes you to the updated page saying the building is 48 stories, 1 million square feet. I suspect someone who updates the downtown development map did a Google search and posted the old numbers based on that initial result. Edited April 17, 2014 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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