Avossos Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 When are they expecting to merge the jails? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 When are they expecting to merge the jails? The city jail will be eliminated when the county completes the jointly-funded Processing Center. In November, when we voters approved the new processing center, it was said that the new center would be open in 3 years, so roughly November 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The city jail will be eliminated when the county completes the jointly-funded Processing Center. In November, when we voters approved the new processing center, it was said that the new center would be open in 3 years, so roughly November 2016. Oh ok, so this sounds like a new structure / facility needs to be built. Do we have a location on that new center? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Oh ok, so this sounds like a new structure / facility needs to be built. Do we have a location on that new center? N. San Jacinto and Baker St., I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 sounds good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Downtown Post Office Building Likely To Become Mixed-Use DevelopmentBy: Andrew Schneider, May 15th, 2014 06:00 AM The old Post Office at 401 Franklin Street occupies 16 acres of prime real estate near Buffalo Bayou. The land is now likely to be turned into a mixed-use development -- combining high-rise office and residential buildings with retail space.“The Post Office site is a gem,” Ralph Bivins, editor of Realty News Report, says. “It’s a jewel. It’s waiting to happen. It’s going to be the cornerstone of what’s going to make Buffalo Bayou a great place.”Bivins says that any redevelopment would almost certainly have some tie-in to the wider renovation of the waterfront by the Buffalo Bayou Partnership. http://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/news/downtown-post-office-building-likely-to-become-mixeduse-development/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 http://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/news/downtown-post-office-building-likely-to-become-mixeduse-development/I think this is the best use of the land.This area needs to be built up and interact with the natural pluses of the area.The city court complexes wouldn't do much for the area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Look close you can see it just above the bottom of the page On the second page of BBP Masterplan "eastern sector" is the map with the South Canal clearly labeled. I thought this was common knowledge? Hence why its called the North Canal and not just "the canal" ...unless I mistakenly read your post incorrectly? 1 observation and 1 idea. Observation: Rendering shows what appears to be the elimination of Franklin St bridge over Buffalo Bayou by rerouting Washinton Ave over some of the Post Office site, then through the middle of North Canal Island to an eventual connection to Runnels/Navigation. Considering the revitalization efforts on both Washington Ave & Navigation Blvd, I'd love if this were to happen and they be connected. Idea: Since land next to County Jail on Alcatraz Island would be a hard sell to any developer, how about HPD build it's new headquarters and support buildings there. They'd have quick access to 10, 45, and 59 and be next to Criminal Courts as well. And maybe HPD's presence on Alcatraz Island would make it somehow ...less seedy. Edited May 16, 2014 by tigereye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 That's a decent idea. Since that land is already sullied by the jails being there, why not attempt to at least make it somewhat better by adding HPD? Plus, like you mentioned there is decent access to area freeways from that location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I know this rendering is from 2004, so I'd assume some of the ideas might have changed seeing how they didn't incorporate the stage by Eleanor Tinsley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largeTEXAS Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Well, sounds like Midway and Lionstone were selected to develop the site. At least 1 hotel, office buildings, residential buildings, and some retail. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Really? Go on!!!And you know this how? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largeTEXAS Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 You didn't hear it from me and deal isn't finalized, but the City has chosen Midway and Lionstone over the other groups. Details are being ironed out and some of the other groups might be included in parts of the overall development. Similar to how the Sears/Fiesta site is being handled in Midtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Right. Just like how Sears/Fiesta site is being handled. Refresh my memory about that, if you would. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Right. Just like how Sears/Fiesta site is being handled.Refresh my memory about that, if you would.Lol, at first I was super excited but then I read this part and was bummed.. Fortunately it's midway apparently behind this deal, who has a track record of mixed use developments. Look forward to hearing more!Edit: I wonder if they'll push for a HSR or commuter rail terminal here. IMO it would be ill advised to develop both the post office site and the hardy yards site without leaving anywhere for a station/terminal. Edited July 4, 2014 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 dang, i cant edit my post. i just noticed one of the founding partners of the Lionstone Group is a Chairman for the Houston Parks Board. this could be excellent news in getting some real/cohesive bayou connectivity with this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 first of all.. WELCOME BACK largeTEXAS! been keeping up with you upon the HBJ. however, do you have any insight upon the proposed hotels (ritz carlton - w hotel - etc..) no one, can seem to present anything thus far that is a bit concrete. everything to date, seem speculative. any updated info, shall be appreciated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) You didn't hear it from me and deal isn't finalized, but the City has chosen Midway and Lionstone over the other groups. Details are being ironed out and some of the other groups might be included in parts of the overall development. Similar to how the Sears/Fiesta site is being handled in Midtown. I don't understand how the city can award the property to anyone since I thought it belongs to the usps, Wouldn't they be the ones to award the property to someone? I hope they do away with Franklin and reroute Washington to allow the bayou to come into play with this property. Although it is on the opposite side of the bayou from sesq. park, they could always add more pedestrian bridges. What this would do is open up the hike and bike trails farther east, and create a frontlawn for that development. The views from this property are the best. Sorry about the pigeons. Edited July 22, 2014 by bobruss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I don't understand how the city can award the property to anyone since I thought it belongs to the usps, Wouldn't they be the ones to award the property to someone?I hope they do away with Franklin and reroute Washington to allow the bayou to come into playwith this property. Although it is on the opposite side of the bayou from sesq. park, they could always add more pedestrian bridges. What this would do is open up the hike and bike trails farther east, and create a frontlawn for that development. The views from this property are the best. Sorry about the pigeons.photo.JPGGreat points.. And I agree about ditching franklin ave and connecting Washington all the way through instead. Otherwise there isn't much bayou frontage that's not under Franklin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly46 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Any news on who bought the post office land? Who submitted bids? Has that been determined yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 When this Post Office closes, where will be the closest "full service, full hours" post office near downtown? I think tat it is terrific that this prime property is potentially subject to redevelopment but...... Where is the next best alternative for all the new downtown residents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There's one in the Customs House in the 700 block of San Jacinto, across from the former Texaco Building, another on Richmond west of Montrose and a third on Almeda just south of the Southwest Freeway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 And I believe the Post Office is requiring any new development to include space for a retail Post Office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Dunno if this actually means anything, but I haven't seen this before. *Edit* I see that Midway has been selected to redevelop the site, so it's 100% likely they would choose Munoz Albin as the architect lol. I guess this is our first look at the plans. http://www.munozalbin.com/62-houston-post-office.html 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Dunno if this actually means anything, but I haven't seen this before. http://www.munozalbin.com/62-houston-post-office.html Went to the website and there doesn't seem to be anything else, but this master plan. To be perfectly honest, firms are hired to do master planning all the time without there being a project afterwards. Many times it's simply to theorize what could be done to the potential site and generate ideas for a future development. Once they get their ideas then they hire another firm to develop the full project. From their collection of projects in their portfolio it seems they have done a lot of master planning projects including one for Galveston. I don't know how old this one is though because they don't really give any info. This master plan is pretty standard. Like very very very mediocre. It's not very inspiring at all and if this did become what would go at the post office site this would be quite the disappointment. I mean it does nothing with the surrounding area, it doesn't interact with the bayou, and it doesn't leave anything open for future growth especially in terms of mass transit which with the movement of TCR now full steam ahead into their environmental process I think that any plans for this site are on hold. Good find though Urbannizer! Edited November 5, 2014 by Luminare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) There have been rumors that midway will develop the post office project and Midway uses Munoz Albin for several projects including CityCentre Edited November 5, 2014 by Mab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Dunno if this actually means anything, but I haven't seen this before. *Edit* I see that Midway has been selected to redevelop the site, so it's 100% likely they would choose Munoz Albin as the architect lol. I guess this is our first look at the plans. http://www.munozalbin.com/62-houston-post-office.html While I'm bummed by the lack of bayou integration (can't say I'm overly surprised though), the rest of the plans seem nice. And some high rises! Heh.. I still think this site is too isolated from the rest of downtown to be much besides a stand alone development though.. Too bad. I had hoped that midway might come up with something creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 There have been rumors that midway will develop the post office project and Midway uses Munoz Albin for several projects including CityCentre Rumors are rumors I don't believe anything until I see a Press Release, a statement from the city of Houston (since this is city property), or more details (renderings, etc...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I thought this was the United States post office property. Did the city lease this land to the post office? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Rumors are rumors I don't believe anything until I see a Press Release, a statement from the city of Houston (since this is city property), or more details (renderings, etc...). This is not city property. It's US Postal Service property. So I guess you'll be needing a statement from the USPS. ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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