Nate99 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said: Around the immediate perimeter of the park I believe only one plot is left, a surface parking lot between Embassy Suites and OPP. The oddly shaped parking lot around the Embassy suites is immediately across Lamar from DG is open, I presumed it was a separate parcel from what the ES owners controlled, but I don't know. The lot diagonally across the Lamar/LaBranch intersection from the park is a surface lot. Fill those in with something tall and you would have a nice "tub" effect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietstorm Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) On 2/10/2018 at 12:07 PM, bobruss said: All of the projects you mentioned were developed by parties that have never shown a concern about aesthetics or design. They have consistently put up poorly designed badly executed projects with no concern for the overall affect they will have on the surroundings. They are just indefensible developers with no sense or desire to create quality projects. For them its all about the money. On the other hand Trammel Crow is a well respected developer who continually develops well planned and executed projects. Truly apples to oranges. I don't have too many problems with HSPVA. Lets face it its a project of HISD, and they are strapped for cash. I'm just so excited that this school is going in downtown and the ramifications of having 800 energized creative minds roaming around downtown is worth the lack of edgy design. HISD would have never been able to explain it to the masses if they went out and spent a fortune on this new school when so many others are in desperate need of repairs. Not quite how this works. I'm speaking as a former HISD administrator who has had a school built w/ bond funds. The bond elections to fund these schools was held as a largely separate measure from funding for school repairs. The school design is largely based on a committee of school stakeholders that meets with the architect to give input on the design. The amount per school was also pre-determined as part of the bond vote. So for example, the new Energy Institute High School (see below), which is also currently being built, has a somewhat more dynamic design, and was funded along the same cycle as HSPVA. Edited June 1, 2019 by quietstorm 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Personally, I like PVA better than that ^. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, quietstorm said: Not quite how this works. I'm speaking as a former HISD administrator who has had a school built w/ bond funds. The bond elections to fund these schools was held as a largely separate measure from funding for school repairs. The school design is largely based on a committee of school stakeholders that meets with the architect to give input on the design. The amount per school was also pre-determined as part of the bond vote. So for example, the new Energy Institute High School (see below), which is also currently being built, has a somewhat more dynamic design, and was funded along the same cycle as HSPVA. Good point. In fact thats going up on the corner of Tierwerster and Southmore on the other side of the bayou from me. We almost bought a house on Wichita about two doors from the parking lot. That is a good example and a fine addition to the neighborhood! Got me on that one. So thats where the money went for HSPVA's more modern design. You would think that the parents of a school like HSPVA would have done the same thing. My son went there and they had a very strong PTO so I don't know who or why but I do know there were lots of discussions and budget concerns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietstorm Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 hours ago, bobruss said: Good point. In fact thats going up on the corner of Tierwerster and Southmore on the other side of the bayou from me. We almost bought a house on Wichita about two doors from the parking lot. That is a good example and a fine addition to the neighborhood! Got me on that one. So thats where the money went for HSPVA's more modern design. You would think that the parents of a school like HSPVA would have done the same thing. My son went there and they had a very strong PTO so I don't know who or why but I do know there were lots of discussions and budget concerns. We're neighbors (I'm off MacGregor). Have lived in the neighborhood for years. My kids went to school at the Energy Institute High School site when it was Lockhart Elem and graduated from Carnegie Vanguard HS, which also has a more interesting design that HSPVA, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 North or south? 16 hours ago, quietstorm said: We're neighbors (I'm off MacGregor). Have lived in the neighborhood for years. My kids went to school at the Energy Institute High School site when it was Lockhart Elem and graduated from Carnegie Vanguard HS, which also has a more interesting design that HSPVA, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietstorm Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 21 hours ago, bobruss said: North or south? I'm off South MacGregor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietstorm Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) On 2/20/2018 at 4:05 PM, kbates2 said: Personally, I like PVA better than that ^. That's my point. Every school design in the HISD bond is based on stakeholder input/preferences--The HSPVA design is largely based on what the school community wanted. And the new HISD school designs are not "good/bad" based on zip code. The quality of design is no better for 77002 (HSPVA) than schools in less affluent areas. Edited February 22, 2018 by quietstorm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 6:45 PM, Twinsanity02 said: Around the immediate perimeter of the park I believe only one plot is left, a surface parking lot between Embassy Suites and OPP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Why are we talking about HISD schools on this thread??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Pushed back again, 1Q 2019 https://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2018-03-26/180323_Development_Map__Renders_11X17.pdf 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 6:48 PM, Urbannizer said: Pushed back again, 1Q 2019 https://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2018-03-26/180323_Development_Map__Renders_11X17.pdf We're in the midst of a real estate boom and they still can't get this one started. Bet you Hines starts first on their even taller luxury residential tower. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Triton said: We're in the midst of a real estate boom and they still can't get this one started. Bet you Hines starts first on their even taller luxury residential tower. my bet is we will see this, Hines, and potentially a couple more (Marquette / Camden 2 / fairfield on main / ?) happen all around the same time... second wave! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Hope you are right Avossos. If my memory is correct, I believe Trammel Crow backed out of previous high rise near the ballpark several years ago. Hope this is not a repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Avossos said: my bet is we will see this, Hines, and potentially a couple more (Marquette / Camden 2 / fairfield on main / ?) happen all around the same time... second wave! And these appear to be even taller than the first wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 6/6/2018 at 10:28 AM, Triton said: We're in the midst of a real estate boom and they still can't get this one started. Bet you Hines starts first on their even taller luxury residential tower. Example 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 3/26/2018 at 6:48 PM, Urbannizer said: Pushed back again, 1Q 2019 https://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2018-03-26/180323_Development_Map__Renders_11X17.pdf This is the one I wished to show regarding delays for this project. Goofed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 This thing's gonna end up being a Mattress Firm when it's all said and done. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, por favor gracias said: This thing's gonna end up being a Mattress Firm when it's all said and done. Don't even put that out into the universe 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 3/26/2018 at 6:48 PM, Urbannizer said: Pushed back again, 1Q 2019 https://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2018-03-26/180323_Development_Map__Renders_11X17.pdf So we are quickly approaching 3Q 2019.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Avossos said: So we are quickly approaching 3Q 2019.... When do the credits expire? End of the year? Anyone know how many approved projects have not yet proceeded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On downtownhouston.org the timeline for this project is removed. It’s anyone’s guess when it breaks ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Timoric said: I vote for a glut of food halls next, eating is good DEI - Downtown Eating Initiative Tax credit for new food halls, but they must have ground floor access to the street, and must support a cheap taco stand somewhere in the city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Maybe this project is dead? Or hopefully just delayed again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, CaptainJilliams said: Maybe this project is dead? Or hopefully just delayed again? Well the ghost of Regent Square came back so I guess anything is possible now. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 What a tease it was when they were spray painting dimensions all over the parking lot. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, H-Town Man said: What a tease it was when they were spray painting dimensions all over the parking lot. Would be nice if they could go back to the drawing board and share parking with that nearby parking garage. I walked that building line that they spray painted and its needlessly tight. Plus it was asking to overtake ROW. Off load the parking and make the people who will live here pay a premium for it. If they want to live right next to Discovery Green in Downtown, I think thats a worthy price to pay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I'm sure the Marriott won't mind if this project is shelved...they won't lose their pool deck skyline view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 @brijonmang mentioned this a few months back in another thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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