IronTiger Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Eh. I can understand why it might not be what some people want to go to, but it's another thing to extrapolate that to "their business model is flawed, it won't work" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 One could argue that they don't have a flawed business model, just a flawed business. However, they couldn't have known in 1980something when they opened that in 20 years people would have video game systems at their home that were 1000 times more sophisticated than what D&B could offer. I do think that D&B should examine their business model though. They bought their main competition - which was an ailing company too boot - and now are just about it. I still do not see who on earth would buy stock in them? Any way... that image was in that one rendering (on the Chronicle), so I suppose perhaps they'll expand to 3 locations? Honestly they would be better off opening at Kemah or Galveston than the north side of Baybrook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Also keep in mind that there is a Main Event not far down the freeway (<1 mile). They have a full bar, laser tag, bowling, billiards, mini golf. I think they have some video games too?I think that's more driven to parents taking their kids, but probably still considered direct competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 ^Yep. Main Event is driven towards the correct demographic. D&B will get people to go, but I still think their model of business (strictly catering to adults) is asking for financial trouble down the road. Not sure why someone like Main Event or D&B don't go to Galveston, or as mentioned Kemah? Lots of tourists during peak holidays, and busy enough the rest of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 According to the City of Houston boundary maps, Baybrook Mall lies within the City of Houston, while most of the surrounding tracts are cobbled up between Webster, Friendswood and League City. So the big sales tax winner in this one is Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Interesting. From window.state.tx: Local sales and use tax should be reported based on the physical location address and not a postal address.Lakeline Mall has a postal address of Cedar Park, Texas, but is physically located within the city of Austin. Local sales and use tax collected in Lakeline Mall should be reported to the city of Austin and the Austin MTA, not to Cedar Park.Baybrook Mall has a postal address of Friendswood, Texas, but is physically located within the city of Houston. Local sales and use tax collected in the Baybrook Mall should be reported to the city of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Friendswood. I really thought the sales tax rate at Baybrook was the lower Friendswood rate, but I haven't been there in 10+ years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Interesting. From window.state.tx: I really thought the sales tax rate at Baybrook was the lower Friendswood rate, but I haven't been there in 10+ years... NM Edited June 13, 2014 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliketurtles Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/2014/06/star-cinema-to-open-in-baybrook/ Darn. Why couldn't it have been an Alamo Draft House instead? Anyone know when they are supposed to start construction? I thought it was supposed to be in May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Noticed a lot of site prep/dirt moving on my way home from work. I think construction has started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I'm with you Arche. I went once in undergrad (st louis) for a bday or something. The only thing I know of now where people go (i'm in my 30's) is for corporate events. But that doesn't seem like it could sustain their business. The handfull of times I've been have also all been after-hours corporate gatherings. Other than that, I've never had an inclination to go on my own or with friends. But, I pass the one on Richmond from time to time on Friday and Saturday nights and the parking lot is usually full, so someone's going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drecey Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 January 15th 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drecey Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Zara is opening a third location in baybrook mall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Terrible updates from last week.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 http://www.baybrookmall.com/renovation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texascubed Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Baybrook Mall expansion grand opening is set for November 18thhttp://m.yourhoustonnews.com/pearland/news/retailers-restaurants-prepping-for-nov-baybrook-mall-grand-opening/article_4208386a-d4c9-5ff9-98d2-0f5919f91c63.html?mode=jqm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Too bad El Dorado and Bay Area construction at 45 is not near complete. Its such a mess over they may see a delay in response to this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) real life/complete version: Edited May 20, 2016 by lockmat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Retail-Wrap-REI-will-be-part-of-lifestyle-center-8663976.php Outdoor gear and apparel co-op REI plans to open a 25,000-square-foot store next to the new lifestyle center in Baybrook Mall, its third in the Houston area. Opening is planned for October. Other retailers scheduled to open in Baybrook Mall this fall include Dick's Sporting Goods, Field & Stream and Golf Galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 The former Sears attached to Baybrook Mall in Webster / Friendswood was on the market until recently. Sears was located at 300 Baybrook Mall. It closed in 2017. https://www.jll.de/en/investorcenter/retail/former-sears-at-baybrook-mall-friendswood-tx-unitedstates https://res.cloudinary.com/jll-global-cmg/image/upload/v1664224052/IC/Img/Original/liqu29wpyssglhv4utl1.pdf https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/300-Baybrook-Mall-Friendswood-TX/26729698/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Site plan for the former Baybrook Mall Sears in Webster / Friendswood. This was located at 300 Baybrook Mall. The site plan was included in sales materials linked in the above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, IntheKnowHouston said: The former Sears attached to Baybrook Mall in Webster / Friendswood was on the market until recently. Sears was located at 300 Baybrook Mall. It closed in 2017. https://www.jll.de/en/investorcenter/retail/former-sears-at-baybrook-mall-friendswood-tx-unitedstates https://res.cloudinary.com/jll-global-cmg/image/upload/v1664224052/IC/Img/Original/liqu29wpyssglhv4utl1.pdf https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/300-Baybrook-Mall-Friendswood-TX/26729698/ It seems there were possible plans to redevelop the former Baybrook Mall Sears ( 300 Baybrook Mall) into a multifamily residence. Materials from 2020 indicated Toll Brothers partnering with Seritage on the project. https://investors.tollbrothers.com/~/media/Files/T/TollBrothers-IR/documents/Corporate Profile/tol-corporate-profile-q2-2020.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) The former Sears location at Baybrook Mall (300 Baybrook Mall) recently changed hands. According to county records, Seritage sold the property to an entity named 300 Baybrook Mall, LLC in December. The entity is tied to furniture store Living Spaces. https://www.livingspaces.com/ Edited January 2, 2023 by IntheKnowHouston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 10:33 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: The former Sears location at Baybrook Mall (300 Baybrook Mall) recently changed hands. According to county records, Seritage sold the property to an entity named 300 Baybrook Mall, LLC in December. The entity is tied to furniture store Living Spaces. https://www.livingspaces.com/ Living Spaces recently applied for a beer and wine permit for its forthcoming Baybrook Mall location. As noted earlier this year, the furniture store purchased the former Sears location in the mall at 300 Baybrook Mall. The alcohol application notice seems to indicate the Baybrook outpost will include a Living Spaces Café. The Fountain View and Katy locations also have Living Spaces Café in their stores. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 9:38 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: The former Sears attached to Baybrook Mall in Webster / Friendswood was on the market until recently. Sears was located at 300 Baybrook Mall. It closed in 2017. https://www.jll.de/en/investorcenter/retail/former-sears-at-baybrook-mall-friendswood-tx-unitedstates https://res.cloudinary.com/jll-global-cmg/image/upload/v1664224052/IC/Img/Original/liqu29wpyssglhv4utl1.pdf https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/300-Baybrook-Mall-Friendswood-TX/26729698/ On 1/2/2023 at 10:33 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: The former Sears location at Baybrook Mall (300 Baybrook Mall) recently changed hands. According to county records, Seritage sold the property to an entity named 300 Baybrook Mall, LLC in December. The entity is tied to furniture store Living Spaces. https://www.livingspaces.com/ A plan review fee permit was filed yesterday for 300 Baybrook Mall. Below are details from the permit: Use: demolition, retail FCC Group: non-residential alteration As posted earlier this year, furniture store Living Spaces is opening at 300 Baybrook Mall. The space was previously Sears. Living Spaces purchased the property last December. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliketurtles Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 On 6/12/2014 at 2:22 PM, arche_757 said: ^Yep. Main Event is driven towards the correct demographic. D&B will get people to go, but I still think their model of business (strictly catering to adults) is asking for financial trouble down the road. Not sure why someone like Main Event or D&B don't go to Galveston, or as mentioned Kemah? Lots of tourists during peak holidays, and busy enough the rest of the time. I guess it worked out for them. And they bought Main Event to boot! On 1/2/2023 at 9:26 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: It seems there were possible plans to redevelop the former Baybrook Mall Sears ( 300 Baybrook Mall) into a multifamily residence. Materials from 2020 indicated Toll Brothers partnering with Seritage on the project. https://investors.tollbrothers.com/~/media/Files/T/TollBrothers-IR/documents/Corporate Profile/tol-corporate-profile-q2-2020.pdf It would've been so strange if this ended up happening. Multifamily residence connected to a mall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 5 hours ago, iliketurtles said: It would've been so strange if this ended up happening. Multifamily residence connected to a mall? It's become almost common around the United States in the last 15 years, especially after the pandemic. Lots of malls are replacing their empty space with apartment buildings. Some are also adding office components to turn them into mini-neighborhoods. Some look better than others. Some look like apartments tacked on to a mall. Some are pretty good, especially the ones where vast stretches of barren surface parking have been turned into townhouses and gardens. When I've visited a couple, it's been hard for me to switch from the mindset of, "This is a mall. It's for shopping" to "This is land, like any other land, and the people who own it want to make money off of it any way they can." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Not connected to the mall itself, but there are apartments under construction in the parking lot of Greenspoint Mall. Greenspoint Mall Apartments Nearly Ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texan Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 hours ago, editor said: It's become almost common around the United States in the last 15 years, especially after the pandemic. Lots of malls are replacing their empty space with apartment buildings. Some are also adding office components to turn them into mini-neighborhoods. Some look better than others. Some look like apartments tacked on to a mall. Some are pretty good, especially the ones where vast stretches of barren surface parking have been turned into townhouses and gardens. When I've visited a couple, it's been hard for me to switch from the mindset of, "This is a mall. It's for shopping" to "This is land, like any other land, and the people who own it want to make money off of it any way they can." I think redeveloping some of the parking lots around the Lawn (outdoor portion of the mall) into apartments with ground floor retail would be a smart move. The Lawn portion of the mall has pedestrian walkways between the Lawn and parking lots that would make a great skeleton for building out into the parking lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardMoney Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 On 11/14/2023 at 12:26 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: Hi IntheKnowHouston, Do you know what's planned for the vacant land just south of Baybrook? It's an controlled by CDC Development (I think). Southbrook Land INC is the entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 hours ago, HardMoney said: Hi IntheKnowHouston, Do you know what's planned for the vacant land just south of Baybrook? It's an controlled by CDC Development (I think). Southbrook Land INC is the entity. @HardMoney sorry, I do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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