samagon Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I was driving down the street this weekend and thought I saw some remarkably horse-like ... leavings. handfuls of people after only being open for a month or so is encouraging. especially considering the amount of construction going on that blocks that lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I was driving down the street this weekend and thought I saw some remarkably horse-like ... leavings. handfuls of people after only being open for a month or so is encouraging. especially considering the amount of construction going on that blocks that lane. I think once that construction clears up we might see more people using it. As for that Horse. I think it should be a responsibility for anyone that sees a misuse of these lanes that a picture is taken and made sure it is viewed by the right people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The green stuff sprayed on the concrete is definitely high friction, but it looks like it would make any wipeouts much worse. It felt scratchy on my finger just by touching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think once that construction clears up we might see more people using it. As for that Horse. I think it should be a responsibility for anyone that sees a misuse of these lanes that a picture is taken and made sure it is viewed by the right people. Where should the horses be? I would think they are closer in speed and scale to the bicyclists than the cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Where should the horses be? I would think they are closer in speed and scale to the bicyclists than the cars. Maybe we need to add horse lanes, too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Multiple bike lanes in the works for downtown.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Multiple bike lanes in the works for downtown.. was there a presentation? Slideshow? spill the beans cloud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately no solid info besides multiple routes are in the works. I talked with a Houston First employee/representative (they aren't actually the ones behind the bike lanes, so he seemed a little unsure of exactly what streets, but mentioned the city was already planning a few more around downtown) after a downtown redevelopment meeting.He did mention something about Polk St and the Columbia Tap Rail. Edited April 30, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Unfortunately no solid info besides multiple routes are in the works. I talked with a Houston First employee/representative (they aren't actually the ones behind the bike lanes, so he seemed a little unsure of exactly what streets, but mentioned the city was already planning a few more around downtown) after a downtown redevelopment meeting.He did mention something about Polk St and the Columbia Tap Rail. This is needed, prior to the light rail going in, the easiest way to get from the columbia tap trail to disco green was down to capitol, but now with rail tracks to get your tires stuck in, it's useless. I'd much prefer that they put a connection from disco to columbia tap on rusk than polk, but however they do it, it will be better than current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Where should the horses be? I would think they are closer in speed and scale to the bicyclists than the cars. In a pasture somewhere? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Unfortunately no solid info besides multiple routes are in the works. I talked with a Houston First employee/representative (they aren't actually the ones behind the bike lanes, so he seemed a little unsure of exactly what streets, but mentioned the city was already planning a few more around downtown) after a downtown redevelopment meeting.He did mention something about Polk St and the Columbia Tap Rail.PWE is currently investigating the idea I suggested to them to shut down Main Street to cars and make it for bikes/pedestrians. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 That would make a lot of sense. Just carve out a few exceptions where needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Where should the horses be? I would think they are closer in speed and scale to the bicyclists than the cars. Speed, yes. Scale, no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKB9 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 PWE is currently investigating the idea I suggested to them to shut down Main Street to cars and make it for bikes/pedestrians.I like this idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 In a pasture somewhere? Apparently, there's a pasture nearby. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Word is Caroline will have a bike lane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Word is Caroline will have a bike laneI can see that.I wonder if the plan would be to only go to HCC or would they plan to go around HCC and continue on Caroline to the Museum district? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I've found the streets east of Fannin between Hermann Park and downtown to be a pleasant bike ride and don't really see the need for a bike lane there. But perhaps future density could change the pleasantness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) It was only mentioned for the downtown section. Midtown has their own plan for Caroline (though I think they were hoping to work together to form one cohesive bike path). I was hoping they would put any N/S bike path down La Branch to connect the Heights bike trail all the way down to Hermann Park without any interruptions, but oh well. Edited May 14, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) It was only mentioned for the downtown section. Midtown has their own plan for Caroline (though I think they were hoping to work together to form one cohesive bike path). I was hoping they would put any N/S bike path down La Branch to connect the Heights bike trail all the way down to Hermann Park without any interruptions, but oh well.Ok, but a bike lane on Caroline just for downtown is kinda like a path to nowhere. As you said, I too am hopeful that they city is creating lanes based on a cohesive masterplan of some kind. I would hope that a plan exists to use any downtown trails to link together the trails on Bufalo bayou, heights, east tap, etc. adding a lane from downtown to the medical center would be awesome. Edited May 14, 2015 by UtterlyUrban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 it wasn't that only the downtown section was getting a bike path. it was that this info was coming from a leader of one of the downtown organizations (i forget which one, he replaced Guy Hagstette[?]), so he was only talking about his section, though he specifically mentioned Midtown was coming up with a Caroline street plan for their section (think I've seen that floating around for a while). it would be ridiculous if they didn't coordinate a cohesive bike path if one side ends up having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 it would be cool if caroline was a real bike path connecting buffalo bayou to hermann park, it would be more awesome of they would make a protected bicycle connection from hermann park to brays bayou. I only did it a few times, taking brays bayou trail from UH to hermann, but as I recall there isn't a safe place to cross mac gregor. as I also seem to recall, traffic on mac gregor doesn't care too much about speed limits, so it feels very unsafe to ped or bike on/near that street. after those few exploratory type rides to get to hermann, it ended up feeling safer just taking leeland to caroline. distance wise, it's an inconsequential difference, but that last crossing just made it feel not worth it. the bike path on brays is beautiful though, going past all those million dollar homes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 yeah, the only problem with Caroline is that HCC stands right smack in the middle of its ROW for a few blocks. thats why i suggested La Branch. no street interruptions between Buffalo Bayou/Heights Hike & Bike Trail and Hermann Park. plus it crosses right by Discovery Green, at the end of the Lamar bike path, and passes right by Toyota Center, and very close to MMP. oh well, for some reason they thought Caroline would be a better bike path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) it would be cool if caroline was a real bike path connecting buffalo bayou to hermann park, it would be more awesome of they would make a protected bicycle connection from hermann park to brays bayou. I only did it a few times, taking brays bayou trail from UH to hermann, but as I recall there isn't a safe place to cross mac gregor. as I also seem to recall, traffic on mac gregor doesn't care too much about speed limits, so it feels very unsafe to ped or bike on/near that street. after those few exploratory type rides to get to hermann, it ended up feeling safer just taking leeland to caroline. distance wise, it's an inconsequential difference, but that last crossing just made it feel not worth it. the bike path on brays is beautiful though, going past all those million dollar homes. I think there is a tunnel under MacGregor Way. Edited May 14, 2015 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) it would be cool if caroline was a real bike path connecting buffalo bayou to hermann park, it would be more awesome of they would make a protected bicycle connection from hermann park to brays bayou. I only did it a few times, taking brays bayou trail from UH to hermann, but as I recall there isn't a safe place to cross mac gregor. as I also seem to recall, traffic on mac gregor doesn't care too much about speed limits, so it feels very unsafe to ped or bike on/near that street. after those few exploratory type rides to get to hermann, it ended up feeling safer just taking leeland to caroline. distance wise, it's an inconsequential difference, but that last crossing just made it feel not worth it. the bike path on brays is beautiful though, going past all those million dollar homes. there is an underpass under macgreggor between Brays Bayou and the Park. The bad thing is you have to circumnavigate the golf course to get to the useable park. Edited May 14, 2015 by LarryDierker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) sweet! that thing must be new* cause I don't remember it being there. *as in built in the last 4 years. edit: and after a little digging, it was opened in Nov. 2012. Which is why I didn't know about it, I quit trying to go that way about 2 years prior and haven't tried since. Edited May 14, 2015 by samagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I seem to recall someone questioning the choice of colors for the bike lane. The question was bothering me, why is it they chose green? Other cities use the green paint to indicate parking, or whatever, so why did Houston go green with the bike lane? I found an answer to this question. It appears to be a design standard from the FHWA. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/separated_bikelane_pdg/page14.cfm They reference using green paint at intersections and as a marking of the lanes. And here: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/separated_bikelane_pdg/page09.cfm They reference painting the whole path green, citing examples. Edited June 3, 2015 by samagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I seem to recall someone questioning the choice of colors for the bike lane. The question was bothering me, why is it they chose green? Other cities use the green paint to indicate parking, or whatever, so why did Houston go green with the bike lane?I found an answer to this question. It appears to be a design standard from the FHWA.http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/separated_bikelane_pdg/page14.cfmThey reference using green paint at intersections and as a marking of the lanes.And here:http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/separated_bikelane_pdg/page09.cfmThey reference painting the whole path green, citing examples.I've never seen green used for parking, ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 In Boston they use green for bike lanes.. I was under the impression that green was the standard color for bike lanes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Green bike lanes are all over the country in many major cities. It helps to remind motorists to note traffic in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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