Urbannizer Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1Q 2018 start 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 With this being a hotel, any ideas or known plans on how they intend to handle guest parking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 11 hours ago, Urbannizer said: 1Q 2018 start This being a hotel is new info right? cant wait for the details.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, nate4l1f3 said: This being a hotel is new info right? cant wait for the details.. It was originally supposed to be residential but then got switched to a hotel in May 2017 (see link below). I really wish it was still going to be residential but I'll take it. http://www.hotel-online.com/press_releases/release/brief-report-historic-downtown-tower-could-become-luxury-hotel-by-2019 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 This hotel is going to be beautiful!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Is there any school of thought on whether hotel or residential is more desirable for building the kind of urban environment most of us want downtown? Preserving the building longterm is I guess another factor, hotels probably go through more renovations and get more wear and tear. On the other hand, more hotel rooms enhance downtown as a convention and overall visitor destination and get us closer to becoming a tourist city. More restaurant visitors as well obviously. San Antonio became a pretty lively city with just big hotels downtown, not sure it would be as lively if all those hotels magically became residential buildings. Just answered my own question I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I count 8 hotels that are or will be using repurposed/rehabbed old buildings in downtown proper. That's pretty cool. Savoy Holiday Inn Cambria AC Hotel Magnolia Icon JW Marriott Hyatt Place Courtyard Marriott/Homewood Then there's the Days Inn... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nate99 said: I count 8 hotels that are or will be using repurposed/rehabbed old buildings in downtown proper. That's pretty cool. Savoy Holiday Inn Cambria AC Hotel Magnolia Icon JW Marriott Hyatt Place Courtyard Marriott/Homewood Then there's the Days Inn... You’re forgetting a lot... le merridein club quarters that one near the alley theater (forgot name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Avossos said: You’re forgetting a lot... le merridein club quarters that one near the alley theater (forgot name) Felt like I was. That was where my brain decided to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Nate99 said: Felt like I was. That was where my brain decided to stop. There are a couple additional buildings that I think would be great for high end hotels or condos... building next to jw marriott harris county annex building / (newer) cotton exchange building 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nate99 said: I count 8 hotels that are or will be using repurposed/rehabbed old buildings in downtown proper. That's pretty cool. Savoy Holiday Inn Cambria AC Hotel Magnolia Icon JW Marriott Hyatt Place Courtyard Marriott/Homewood/Residence Inn le Meridien Club Quarters Sam Houston Westin (Inn @ the Ballpark) The Lancaster Aloft If Savoy Holiday Inn is on the list, the Whitehall probably should be as well. That's actually 17 hotels. Just realized that with these 2 newest hotels, downtown will have, I think, 28 hotels. Not so long ago, we had 4 hotels. Edited January 8, 2018 by Houston19514 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Avossos said: There are a couple additional buildings that I think would be great for high end hotels or condos... building next to jw marriott harris county annex building / (newer) cotton exchange building Agree with newer cotton exchange building. The building next to the JW is awkward... those long, horizontal windows don't seem very well suited for modern tastes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, downtownian said: The building next to the JW is awkward... those long, horizontal windows don't seem very well suited for modern tastes . I thought that it would have been great for meeting space for the JW. It's also completely boxed in except for the narrow piece facing Main, so only the west facing bit gets windows, but it will mostly be shadowed by BG Place. It was a department store originally, not sure who that kind of layout might be a good fit for going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Harris county annex building / (newer) cotton exchange building absolutely needs to be a high end hotel or something vibrant. Every time I'm driving down main it catches my eye and then I'm bummed it's a county office building. The facade/ornamentation reminds me of the historical buildings around downtown San Antonio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nate99 said: I thought that it would have been great for meeting space for the JW. It's also completely boxed in except for the narrow piece facing Main, so only the west facing bit gets windows, but it will mostly be shadowed by BG Place. It was a department store originally, not sure who that kind of layout might be a good fit for going forward. One big problem would be access to elevators. Retail on the bottom floor is limited due to the needed access to elevators. My guess is the interior is extremely catered to a department store... Offices (we-work or such perhaps) / Department store (hopes and dreams) / large scale condo units with a coffee shop downstairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Avossos said: One big problem would be access to elevators. Retail on the bottom floor is limited due to the needed access to elevators. My guess is the interior is extremely catered to a department store... Offices (we-work or such perhaps) / Department store (hopes and dreams) / large scale condo units with a coffee shop downstairs How about an urban Target concept? I think at it would be smashing there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: How about an urban Target concept? I think at it would be smashing there. I love the idea but anyone know where the loading docks for the building are? That would be the only obstacle I would see to a major retailer taking hold there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, urbanize713 said: I love the idea but anyone know where the loading docks for the building are? That would be the only obstacle I would see to a major retailer taking hold there. Unless there is some access point stashed inside the Jimmy John's garage or a passage through from the loading dock on Rusk that serves the 801 Travis building, I am not seeing where there could be one, but surely Battelstein's didn't just wheel everything in through the front door back in the day, right? EDIT: Here's an article from 1999 talking about someone having loft-office ideas for the building back when the Jimmy John's garage was being planned. Seems like those two developers were at least talking, and today, you can see the tunnel access point mentioned in the article between the garage and the JW Marriott. Maybe there is a walled off access point in there somewhere at street level. https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/1999/10/18/newscolumn5.html Edited January 9, 2018 by Nate99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 0:00 PM, Avossos said: You’re forgetting a lot... le merridein club quarters that one near the alley theater (forgot name) aloft too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Didn't see this article posted earlier. https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/05/16/dallas-developer-sells-houstons-historic-petroleum.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Anyone know of any examples for Choice luxury/boutique hotels? I thought they were on the lower end of the scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The one in Dallas mentioned in the article appears to have opened about a week ago and is priced at about $111 a night. This would seem to be pretty far towards the bottom of the scale. Sucks if so for such a gorgeous building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 This building would be perfect for an Ace Hotel or a non-chain, independent boutique like the Wythe in Brooklyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 8:00 AM, UtterlyUrban said: With this being a hotel, any ideas or known plans on how they intend to handle guest parking? rumor is they are going to find some 100 year old buildings to tear down for valet parking. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 19 hours ago, kbates2 said: The one in Dallas mentioned in the article appears to have opened about a week ago and is priced at about $111 a night. This would seem to be pretty far towards the bottom of the scale. Sucks if so for such a gorgeous building. Hotel pricing is all over the place. Now, who knows what algorithm the cookies on my browser are spitting out, but Hotels.com is listing Club Quarters at $103. Not sure how comparable they are, I've never been inside CQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietstorm Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Nate99 said: Hotel pricing is all over the place. Now, who knows what algorithm the cookies on my browser are spitting out, but Hotels.com is listing Club Quarters at $103. Not sure how comparable they are, I've never been inside CQ. CQ are designed for basic business travel. I've stayed at three: Financial District SF - modern clean decor, compact rooms DT Boston - clean, comfortable, small rooms, fairly modern, clean decor Center City Philly - larger rooms, but not very well-maintained *all of them were in older/historic buildings...the one here is in an older building (I think). I'm not sure about the quality of the Houston CQ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) This project appears to be starting very soon. There are markings around the building for a hoist/gates etc. This morning I also spotted some fencing that was un-assembled. Did we ever get additional information/renderings? Edited April 10, 2018 by urbanize713 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, urbanize713 said: This project appears to be starting very soon. There are markings around the building for a hoist/gates etc. This morning I also spotted some fencing that was un-assembled. Did we ever get additional information/renderings? Hey M, You sure? The latest showed that there was no start date available for this. I certainly hope this does get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Someone with a bucket of chalk could get HAIF very excited... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm going to hold off. Saw folks for block 98 take soil samples years back, then spray lines a few months ago, then nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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