wxman Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Chronicle needs to go. Hines already said that the site will feature a high rise and wouldn't we all rather have that??? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well, no, not if there's anything left of the old buildings. Besides, Hines could put up a pair of high rises where the garages are now and do something more interesting with the existing non-garage building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDW Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My guess, Hines wrecks the block, than puts a surface parking lot in. They collect some scratch in parking fees, wait until oil starts to go back up and build an office tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Why does it have to be either a glass tower or restoration?What about another Aris @ Market square?A mixture of old and new? A 50 floor mixed use tower that respects the traditional feel of the area to the north but incorporates the newer designs of the buildings to the south.In a classy way combine the Esperson (I know it is actually a couple blocks south) with Penzoil. But not in a Randall Davis way, more in the Aris way. A traditional feel work a modern award winning twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Why does it have to be either a glass tower or restoration?What about another Aris @ Market square?A mixture of old and new? A 50 floor mixed use tower that respects the traditional feel of the area to the north but incorporates the newer designs of the buildings to the south.In a classy way combine the Esperson (I know it is actually a couple blocks south) with Penzoil. But not in a Randall Davis way, more in the Aris way. A traditional feel work a modern award winning twist.Seconded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibletrees Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 moo. Too much "traditional" going on already. We need a new architectural art-piece for Downtown. Something very modern, raises the bar and stands out, yet classy. Hines may stick to Pickard Chilton which is nice, but their recent designs are pretty similar to one another and I'm sure they can do more. Hopefully Hines goes with SOM or Zaza Hadid, even though the latter may be extreme for them. The chronicle block a +50 office tower and the garage block a ~40 story 5-star hotel with condo units above. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cloud713 Posted February 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2016 moo. Too much "traditional" going on already. We need a new architectural art-piece for Downtown. Something very modern, raises the bar and stands out, yet classy. Hines may stick to Pickard Chilton which is nice, but their recent designs are pretty similar to one another and I'm sure they can do more. Hopefully Hines goes with SOM or Zaza Hadid, even though the latter may be extreme for them. The chronicle block a +50 office tower and the garage block a ~40 story 5-star hotel with condo units above. Interesting that you mention it.. I was recently reading about a Pickard Chilton designed tower planned for Seattle that seems like an insanely awesome development (supports your "I'm sure they can do more" opinion).. http://www.djc.com/news/ae/12085612.html?platform=hootsuite  Early design studies show the tower at 1201 Second Ave. lifted up on structural columns, with publicly accessible space underneath. Skanska said approvals seem to be on schedule for construction to start in August, with completion set for late 2018. Pickard Chilton of New Haven, Connecticut, is the design lead. Kendall/Heaton Associates of Houston, Texas, is the architect of record. Graham Baba Architects is the consulting architect on the ground-floor open space and retail and Swift Co. is the landscape architect. Both are Seattle firms. ... The package includes ground-floor cultural or arts space, wayfinding signs, seating, a public bike rack, an electric bike charging station, a bike fix-it repair stand, publicly accessible restrooms, lighting and electric outlets for community events, and 28,000 square feet of public open space that will include amenities for children. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 But where do you park your Expedition? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Yeah I was wondering about parking too.. There is an underground garage planned for 400-500 parking spaces, but obviously they would need more. I'm not sure of Seattles parking situation/how developers generally do things (if anyone knows, I'd be interested to learn more.. In Houston we have this mindset that every office tower needs a big garage podium at its base). Maybe they'll lease space from a nearby garage? Edited February 26, 2016 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 "but obviously they would need more"... I sincerely doubt that any other parking is planned for this project. Our perspective is just skewed by what we see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I agree, they probably don't have any other parking planned for the tower, which is why I asked how Seattle developers handle parking situations/was wondering where the rest of the people might park. The plans call for 700,000 sq ft of office space, and 15,000 sq ft of retail.. 500 parking spaces wouldn't be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 i like it how our example of what could be better is a SKANSKA project in another city when they have the eyesore of a parking garage here..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 i like it how our example of what could be better is a SKANSKA project in another city when they have the eyesore of a parking garage here..... Patience, Grasshopper.  If they stay even remotely close to the renderings when the tower is eventually done we'll never notice the parking podium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 i like it how our example of what could be better is a SKANSKA project in another city when they have the eyesore of a parking garage here.....On a scale of Gherkin to Parking Garage, how would you rate the modern architectural landscape of Houston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) - Edited July 10, 2019 by Timoric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I agree, they probably don't have any other parking planned for the tower, which is why I asked how Seattle developers handle parking situations/was wondering where the rest of the people might park. The plans call for 700,000 sq ft of office space, and 15,000 sq ft of retail.. 500 parking spaces wouldn't be enough. Based on what exactly? "The rest of the people" will either park in existing garages or on the street, or take transit or a bike in. What's the breakdown of commute type in Seattle? I assume its different from Houston, though I have no idea by how much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Isn't Gherkin a pickle?https://www.google.com/search?q=gherkin&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=955&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi21rHGuJbLAhXFHB4KHUUWBH8Q_AUIBigB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I talked with a Harvey supervisor at the Hines 609 Main project during the luffer removal, he said they are going to demo the building this summer and make it surface parking lot and wait for the local economy to improve before they build something on this block. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astros148 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Yay for surface parking lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Surface parking? What else would we expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Gotta do it the Houston way yall. Imagine the rare site of this in NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 To paraphrase  Yosemite Sam  "I hates surface parking lots" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 14 hours ago, hindesky said: I talked with a Harvey supervisor at the Hines 609 Main project during the luffer removal, he said they are going to demo the building this summer and make it surface parking lot and wait for the local economy to improve before they build something on this block. Well there's a shock! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Two steps forward, one step back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Good thing Hines isn't known for their architecturally pleasing designs so we can freak out about this and lose all hope 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 With the Lamar Hotel block they let it sit as surface parking for about 15 years. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yeah but their designs are usually fawned over at haif, so you guys can take solace in knowing there will be something pretty to look at, eventually. A lesson in patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Demoing this block is something too get excited about if you ask me. Prepares the land for something Going Up! next cycle. They could decide just to leave the existing building vacant. I actually prefer an empty parking lot for this block for now. We'll get a better project next time around than we would if they began something now.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 33 minutes ago, Sparrow said: Demoing this block is something too get excited about if you ask me. Prepares the land for something Going Up! next cycle. They could decide just to leave the existing building vacant. I actually prefer an empty parking lot for this block for now. We'll get a better project next time around than we would if they began something now.   Demoing the building also will make it easier to forget about the Chronicle's existence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) - Edited July 10, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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