Popular Post Urbannizer Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 Subdivision Plat filed for Block 58 (former Chronicle building) and Block 42 (710 Preston Parking Garage). What's interesting is that Martin Fein is listed as the developer for Block 58 on the current planning commission spreadsheet. SubdivisionPlatPDF_1617-1750_Block 58_plat.pdf SubdivisionPlatPDF_Block 42 Inverstors LLC Plat_01.pdf 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Interesting. The Southmore and Aris were both partnerships with Greystar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CREguy13 Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think the residential component is slated to be 40 - 45 floors. Hopefully they are tearing down the garage and close to a groundbreaking - this is becoming a dense residential neighborhood. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 hours ago, CREguy13 said: I think the residential component is slated to be 40 - 45 floors. Hopefully they are tearing down the garage and close to a groundbreaking - this is becoming a dense residential neighborhood. Wow! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CREguy13 Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 When I saw the Block 58 material, they had renderings of the Residential project and it appeared to be as tall if not a couple floors taller than Market Square Tower with a lot of glass. Still subject to change, but this was back in January. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I’m not sure who said this, but I thought a groundbreaking was 4Q 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This is making me happy to hear. Full block for Hines to play with on Block 58 so hopefully the ground floor interaction is substantial. Have you guys heard anything about the plans for Block 42? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 10 hours ago, CREguy13 said: I think the residential component is slated to be 40 - 45 floors. Hopefully they are tearing down the garage and close to a groundbreaking - this is becoming a dense residential neighborhood. CRE - did you think the residential project will be on block 42 or on block 58? Your comment about tearing down the garage made me think perhaps this is 2 separate towers you saw? Both residential? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CREguy13 Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Avossos said: CRE - did you think the residential project will be on block 42 or on block 58? Your comment about tearing down the garage made me think perhaps this is 2 separate towers you saw? Both residential? Right so for background, I was able to review Hines Block 58 Marketing book that highlighted all on their new office project (Block 58) in great detail. On a few of the pages where they showed the impact on the skyline from different vantage points, they showed the proposed high rise on Block 42. The proposed high rise was clearly residential and looked to be as tall if not a few floors taller than Market Square Tower, with nearly all glass facing Market Square park. I have no knowledge of the project outside of these renderings - but the impact on the northern portion of our skyline was immense. Hopefully the filing of these plats are a good sign. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, CREguy13 said: Right so for background, I was able to review Hines Block 58 Marketing book that highlighted all on their new office project (Block 58) in great detail. On a few of the pages where they showed the impact on the skyline from different vantage points, they showed the proposed high rise on Block 42. The proposed high rise was clearly residential and looked to be as tall if not a few floors taller than Market Square Tower, with nearly all glass facing Market Square park. I have no knowledge of the project outside of these renderings - but the impact on the northern portion of our skyline was immense. Hopefully the filing of these plats are a good sign. Wow... I really need to lower my expectations right now because they are sky high! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, CREguy13 said: Right so for background, I was able to review Hines Block 58 Marketing book that highlighted all on their new office project (Block 58) in great detail. On a few of the pages where they showed the impact on the skyline from different vantage points, they showed the proposed high rise on Block 42. The proposed high rise was clearly residential and looked to be as tall if not a few floors taller than Market Square Tower, with nearly all glass facing Market Square park. I have no knowledge of the project outside of these renderings - but the impact on the northern portion of our skyline was immense. Hopefully the filing of these plats are a good sign. Thank you sir! I didn't think Block 58 would be full residential. Seemed to be suited for office or mixed use office. This makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Triton said: Wow... I really need to lower my expectations right now because they are sky high! Same here. While it was only preliminary drawings and everything is subject to change if/when this were to break ground, we must remember this is Hines. And if you look at the immediate area with 609 Main, Aris MS, MST and Capitol Tower, these are all of the highest quality in their asset classes and are doing very well. As we've seen time again, the Hines effect is real and we should expect this area to continue to reflect that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Money Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Any idea what the height was on the block 58 tower? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post REDev89 Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 The block 42 highrise is all residential and currently at 46 stories. This would take half the block (old HC parking garage). 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 More, more, more!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, REDev89 said: The block 42 highrise is all residential and currently at 46 stories. This would take half the block (old HC parking garage). Be still, my racing heart. That'd be quite an addition, in and of itself. As to Block 58, I'm sure Hines is well aware of the proposed tower at One Market Square given that they were tied down in litigation regarding tunnel access for that site. I can't help but think Hines would want to ensure their building would make the bigger splash, even if One Market Square gets built. That gives me a sense of optimism for this site. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 As far as I know, Gerald Hines has an excellent track record of going through with his building plans. This will be outstanding. Good riddance to the HC garage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) So just for clarity, there are two towers, yes? block 42: 46 stories, all residential. block 58: skyscraper, office. Floors unknown. Just checking. Edited March 22, 2018 by wxman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post swtsig Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, wxman said: So just for clarity, there are two towers, yes? block 42: 46 stories, all residential. block 58: skyscraper, office. Floors unknown. Just checking. correct. block 58 could have a mixed use component but office for certain. hines is incredibly active in houston right now. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 When Swtsig talks, people listen. Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 so, are these blocks currently effected by the parking exemptions? Have the parking exemptions even been placed yet in downtown? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I almost feel like you guys all work in the same office sometimes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, TheSirDingle said: so, are these blocks currently effected by the parking exemptions? Have the parking exemptions even been placed yet in downtown? There have been no parking requirements downtown for a very long time. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 To be honest, I did not know Hines was a founding partner of DE Harvey. Mr. Hines is the man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Where did you all get the height information for block 42? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So there are three blocks in this area: 42, 43, and 58. Hines owns and is slated to develop blocks 42 and 58. 43 is where one market square/international tower is slated to go on. Is block 58 currently the surface parking lot or is that 43? Something isn't quite adding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 yes 58 is the surface lot right now. The original chronicle site. 42 is a half block garage at the moment which backs up to Hogg Palace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 These two would be a major focal change on the skyline. I really hope these kick off in the next year or so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted March 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2018 This has to be a promising sign that something is going to happen, a truck drilling for core samples, I counted 6 holes so far. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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