houstontexasjack Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, bobruss said: If you can zoom in on the dimension at the the top of the drawing on the left it appears to read 737 or 735. But Ive been known to miss a few things so check it out. The last digit looks like a 7. The middle could be a “3” or an “8.” A “3” would put it right around PAC’s 735’ statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Emporis Houston has been this building as 735 feet in height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator80 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 So this one is shorter than 609 then? Disappointing for such a prominent site. Props to Hines but it has become clear that they do not intend build in Houston to the heights that they were 35 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 When this building goes up it’s going to block one of the best views (from the north) of 609 Main. I wonder why Hines oriented 609 Main so that it’s best, most dramatic side (facing Chase) is mostly blocked from view by taller buildings while the plain back side is wide open toward MMP. I would have flipped it 180 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The slope of 609, points up to the top of the Chase Building. I am pretty sure that that is intentional and makes 609 coherent within the skyline. But, I don't see that this will much block the view of 609. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Will One Mrket Square if built block the view of this this tower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I know everyone likes having full views of significant towers... but every tower that goes up is designed to be the best, for its own purpose. If this tower went up with intentions not to block something else, it isn't being designed right... I bet we will have new interesting perspectives as our skyline continues to change... that's a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Equipment on site is tearing up the parking lot this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Avossos said: I know everyone likes having full views of significant towers... but every tower that goes up is designed to be the best, for its own purpose. If this tower went up with intentions not to block something else, it isn't being designed right... I bet we will have new interesting perspectives as our skyline continues to change... that's a good thing! Avassos, you're the Pangloss to HAIF's Candide. Never stop believing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Avossos said: I know everyone likes having full views of significant towers... but every tower that goes up is designed to be the best, for its own purpose. If this tower went up with intentions not to block something else, it isn't being designed right... I bet we will have new interesting perspectives as our skyline continues to change... that's a good thing! The other thing that it does is adds new colors, textures and shapes to the skyline and what makes the skyline more interesting is that play of one building off of another. Layering gives the skyline more depth and intensifies the overall fabric of our architectural still life. I keep hoping for more growth in the gap you see coming up 288 into town between the Chase grouping and the Wells Fargo grouping. I'd love to see more density in the middle gap. Of course you'd lose the Pennzoil but gain more density of buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Alec said: Avassos, you're the Pangloss to HAIF's Candide. Never stop believing. 1 hour ago, bobruss said: The other thing that it does is adds new colors, textures and shapes to the skyline and what makes the skyline more interesting is that play of one building off of another. Layering gives the skyline more depth and intensifies the overall fabric of our architectural still life. I keep hoping for more growth in the gap you see coming up 288 into town between the Chase grouping and the Wells Fargo grouping. I'd love to see more density in the middle gap. Of course you'd lose the Pennzoil but gain more density of buildings. Just did some research on Pangloss... now, I don't believe everything that is ever done, is right or as it should be. but there are a few things to draw from that I could agree with Dr. P... There are positives to consider when analyzing all sides of this. For one, there is a history of smaller, older towers, getting "lost" in the sea of larger towers... There positive (Dr. Pangloss should agree) that we are raising the bar or making forward progress. I do not think so positively though... Historic buildings, if architecturally significant, should not be destroyed... We need them, especially here. Some projects or developments are misguided and do not consider a greater good. Protections, and even zoning, are mechanisms that could increase the greater good, despite people feeling like their rights are infringed. My point for this is, like bobruss said, there will be some positives with varying the skyline and added new materials. I do wish we would get a different colored tower or something not just glass... all and all it would be hard to feel discouraged because a 50 story designer tower is much better than a parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 6 hours ago, TexasGeneral said: Equipment on site is tearing up the parking lot this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Home made rendering made just for fun. Not official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Nice job Reporter! If you could move it just a little more to the right I think you would have it in the perfect spot. It appears to be hugging the west side of the block in the floor plan on page 32. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Great addition to that section of Downtown ... will be a great view approaching the city from the east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reporter Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 At this rate, I think this building will be finished by the end of the summer. These guys don't fock around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Reporter said: Home made rendering made just for fun. Not official. Great use of my photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Thanks for putting on the internet so I could 'borrow' it. Edited July 25, 2018 by Reporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Fence is going up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just got sent a picture of a rendering for block 42 and unfortunately I can’t post it yet but I can say with confidence I think you all will like it. It matches the massing of the top down view blakevirgilio posted a few pages back. The wall facing market square is all glass with a little angle setback at the base of the glass. I’ll post it when I’m given the ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 11:47 AM, blakevirgilio said: Here are more images: 48 minutes ago, brijonmang said: Just got sent a picture of a rendering for block 42 and unfortunately I can’t post it yet but I can say with confidence I think you all will like it. It matches the massing of the top down view blakevirgilio posted a few pages back. The wall facing market square is all glass with a little angle setback at the base of the glass. I’ll post it when I’m given the ok. Besides the massing it is a good representation of what it looks like? Thanks for the description. I think it's a really good idea they found a way to have one of the main sides facing the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, lockmat said: Besides the massing it is a good representation of what it looks like? Thanks for the description. I think it's a really good idea they found a way to have one of the main sides facing the park. I think it’s (the massing image you posted) a good representation of the building. I only have one picture that’s black and white and it shows the glass curtain wall which I matched with the Market Square side because of the bend in the facade. The other material might be limestone or marble or slate...some kind of stone. It’s a brick/paver pattern but the pieces are larger than brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole23 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Does it have ground floor retail? Asking for a friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 11 hours ago, Nole23 said: Does it have ground floor retail? Asking for a friend... Hard to say. The first floor does appear to be taller than the others though, so maybe that's due to it having some retail space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Nole23 said: Does it have ground floor retail? Asking for a friend... "We will again take those standards to an even higher level with a larger, activated lobby, expanded user experience and by fully realizing the direction in which tenants and their employees are going, by striving to meet the needs of the ever-changing workforce in ways the Texas market has never seen.” This is a quote from their press release so without having to read too much into it they seem to be alluding to more GFR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, bobruss said: "We will again take those standards to an even higher level with a larger, activated lobby, expanded user experience and by fully realizing the direction in which tenants and their employees are going, by striving to meet the needs of the ever-changing workforce in ways the Texas market has never seen.” This is a quote from their press release so without having to read too much into it they seem to be alluding to more GFR. That quote is referring to the office building, but I believe Block 42 will have GFR. I remember someone saying the two and 717 Texas will all tie in together at ground level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harementire Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I am looking forward to this. Another great project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 2:15 PM, Reporter said: At this rate, I think this building will be finished by the end of the summer. These guys don't fock around. Reminds me of Caydon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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