lilyheights Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 We have been shopping at the Fiesta on Shepherd the past few weeks. (Trying, once again, to find the best grocery in this area.) We've noticed that since the refacing they've also changed some things inside. We're noticing more "yuppie" food. (Buddy's chicken, a new deli area -- among other items.) Our neighbor went shopping there recently and the manager approached her and told her to request anything she didn't find. I know that Fiesta has a more neighborhood centered approach to their stores. I've also been impressed with the management at various locations over the years...they seem to listen. Maybe if we work with them, we don't need HEB or Kroger to do anything. Fiesta looks like they might be ready to carry the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1fd Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Maybe if we work with them, we don't need HEB or Kroger to do anything. Fiesta looks like they might be ready to carry the ball.Maybe not...but...I can't imagine any of those snobs coming down from their 1/2 million dollar McVictorian to go to Fiesta.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwrm4 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) I think the Fiesta at Studemont & 14th would really be a good location to "upscale". The entire area surrounding it has been mostly gentrified. For me in the SE part of the Heights, the Fiesta on Shepherd is still a bit of a haul...takes the same amount of time to get to the Kroger on West Gray.Everyone wants around here wants a Whole Foods, but Fiesta already has the building, parking lot, and a license to sell alcohol. Call it Trader Joe's Central Fiesta of Whole Foods, and you've got a gold mine. Edited March 5, 2007 by cwrm4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Maybe not...but...I can't imagine any of those snobs coming down from their 1/2 million dollar McVictorian to go to Fiesta....Well, if she doesn't mind me saying so, the author of the original post lives in one of those high priced new Victorians. Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge...The yuppies in Montrose have made that Feista one of the best markets in town to shop at. THe wine selection is awesome for a non-gourmet market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyheights Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Maybe not...but...I can't imagine any of those snobs coming down from their 1/2 million dollar McVictorian to go to Fiesta....My "snobby" self has always shopped Fiesta for part of my grocery list.I'm just hoping to consolidate my shopping a bit. If Fiesta over here gets a few of my "Whole Foodish/Central Marketish" items, I'll be in heaven. We cook a lot of food that requires things from Fiesta -- if they carry my snob food too, I'm set for one stop shopping. (Provided we stop off at La Michoacana for the tortillas first.)Currently, a big meal at our house can involve three to four grocery stores.I was hoping that others might stop by and chat with the managers about their requests. That could make for a great shopping experience for everyone, since they seem willing to listen and act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Malvoe Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I think the Fiesta at Studemont & 14th would really be a good location to "upscale". The entire area surrounding it has been mostly gentrified. For me in the SE part of the Heights, the Fiesta on Shepherd is still a bit of a haul...takes the same amount of time to get to the Kroger on West Gray.Everyone wants around here wants a Whole Foods, but Fiesta already has the building, parking lot, and a license to sell alcohol. Call it Trader Joe's Central Fiesta of Whole Foods, and you've got a gold mine.Exactly. It would make tons of money. I live a couple of blocks away, and I would do all of my shopping there. Sadly, as it sits, it is one of the worst grocery stores I've been to, and it stinks (literally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Wouldn't the Fiesta on Studewood be more likely to go the way of the Montrose Fiesta than the Fiesta on Shepherd? That part of the Heights seems more comparable to lower Montrose than the Upper-Shepherd area. Based on changes I saw over time at the two Montrose Krogers, I would also guess that the 11th St. Kroger is more likely to go "upscale" sooner than either Fiesta.The changes may be slow in coming, but each new large house (whatever the architectural style) that replaces a bungalow makes them more and more inevitable. Our Fiestas currently serve segments of the Heights community that have already been pushed out of Montrose to a much larger extent, and the "upscaling" of those stores will make them less serviceable to the people they currently serve (who are also less likely to have the disposable income to eat out frequently). And an upscale Fiesta or upscale Kroger is not going to eliminate the need to go to Central Market for certain things.Just my thoughts on the issue - not meant to be judgmental, as I think the original post was just focused on the natural desire anyone has to have a grocery store convenient to them that will fit their needs and thus save them time shopping. I'd shop at an upscale grocery store if there was one in the area, and it is probably a niche market that could be better served - but I've always viewed the lack of upscale grocery shopping as part of the trade-off I make in order to live in a diverse neighborhood. Life's not too bad - the Montrose/Kirby shops aren't that far away, the 11th St Kroger isn't all that bad, Fiesta has nopalitos, and the little market on Heights Blvd. has good meat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights2Bastrop Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 When the Albertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy444 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 However, after numerous bad experiences at multiple Fiesta locations, I would never, ever buy meat from them. My last experience was getting a package of Blue Ribbon sausage from the Austin location that was two months out of date.Ummm, I got a package of Blue Ribbon sausage from the austin fiesta in my fridge right now. thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1fd Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 My "snobby" self has always shopped Fiesta for part of my grocery list.Are you a snob? Snobs don't shop at Fiesta...its beneath them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Our Fiestas currently serve segments of the Heights community that have already been pushed out of Montrose to a much larger extent, and the "upscaling" of those stores will make them less serviceable to the people they currently serve (who are also less likely to have the disposable income to eat out frequently). And an upscale Fiesta or upscale Kroger is not going to eliminate the need to go to Central Market for certain things.Actually, the nice Fiesta in Montrose has all the same stuff as a regular Fiesta. They just also have a great wine selection and an organic/natural foods section. That's as "upscale" as Fiesta gets, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Actually, the nice Fiesta in Montrose has all the same stuff as a regular Fiesta. They just also have a great wine selection and an organic/natural foods section. That's as "upscale" as Fiesta gets, I believe.I shouldn't pretend to know anything about the ways in which grocery stores operate, as I really have no idea - I was thinking that adding sections like that would result in the loss of other offerings and maybe an overall increase in prices, so that such changes wouldn't be entirely welcome to everyone, but I could be wrong. And it's probably beside the point, as a store will change as its customer base changes, especially if it can find ways to be more profitable. I certainly can't fault the manager at the Shepherd Fiesta for wanting to know what the store's customers want to see in the store. (A bigger cheese selection - that's what I always want.)The Montrose Fiesta also has a really good British foods section - lots of random imported products you don't tend to see outside of specialty shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyheights Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I don't find that Fiesta is the cheapest place to shop. I find this to be a bit of a misconception. They are in line with other groceries, usually. Places like Food Town (and the like) is a much better "bargain" store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 A bit off the beaten path for Heights-area residents, but since the Montrose Fiesta has been mentioned, we went by the Signature Kroger on 43rd near Ella this weekend after hearing that they'd recently completed a renovation. It is by far the nicest Kroger I've ever been in - very well-stocked, clean, and with an impressive produce section and meat counter. If they're able to maintain this standard, it will be worth the trip to shop there. The Kroger at 11th and Shepherd, where we usually shop, isn't nearly as nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_dood Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Maybe not...but...I can't imagine any of those snobs coming down from their 1/2 million dollar McVictorian to go to Fiesta....the neighborhood must be changing around there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottonmather0 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 A bit off the beaten path for Heights-area residents, but since the Montrose Fiesta has been mentioned, we went by the Signature Kroger on 43rd near Ella this weekend after hearing that they'd recently completed a renovation. It is by far the nicest Kroger I've ever been in - very well-stocked, clean, and with an impressive produce section and meat counter. If they're able to maintain this standard, it will be worth the trip to shop there. The Kroger at 11th and Shepherd, where we usually shop, isn't nearly as nice.We used to go to the Kroger in Oak Forest all the time when we moved into Timbergrove, but then we just kind of shifted towards the one on 11th because it's about 1/4th as far away. I didn't know they were renovating the other store, might have to go check it out. I always thought it was only slightly nicer than the store on 11th, but maybe that's changed. I haven't been up there in about a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1fd Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 we went by the Signature Kroger on 43rd near Ella this weekend after hearing that they'd recently completed a renovation. It is by far the nicest Kroger I've ever been in - very well-stocked, clean, and with an impressive produce section and meat counter. If they're able to maintain this standard, it will be worth the trip to shop there.I wish somebody would renovate that sucker into an HEB. Yeah, its nice-ish (not as nice as the one on W Gray) but the prices are outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights2Bastrop Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 The Kroger at 11th and Shepherd, where we usually shop, isn't nearly as nice.It's all relative, I suppose. The Kroger at Merchant's Park (11th @ Shepherd) is 1000 times nicer than the Kroger that was there previously. But then, that older Kroger was still operating in the footprint of the Henke and Pilot that was there originally. The newest renovation at least doubled the size of the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottonmather0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 It's all relative, I suppose. The Kroger at Merchant's Park (11th @ Shepherd) is 1000 times nicer than the Kroger that was there previously. But then, that older Kroger was still operating in the footprint of the Henke and Pilot that was there originally. The newest renovation at least doubled the size of the store.True that - I have a friend who owns a house on Waverly a few blocks from there. When he bought the house back in 1999 we would make beer runs to that old Kroger on days when we were helping him tear out the old walls. It was indeed pretty dumpy and they did improve it quite a bit when they remodeled the store. My friend's house looks great these days, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 True that - I have a friend who owns a house on Waverly a few blocks from there. When he bought the house back in 1999 we would make beer runs to that old Kroger on days when we were helping him tear out the old walls. It was indeed pretty dumpy and they did improve it quite a bit when they remodeled the store. My friend's house looks great these days, too.If you're ever feeling nostalgic for old Krogers, there's always the one at 20th and Yale. It's the most convenient one for us, but most of the time I'd just as soon drive a little further and go to the (much larger) Merchants Park one instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonray Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I've heard from a couple of different people that the Kroger on 11th/Shepherd is considering expanding once again into the empty spaces next to it...they are wanting to double the size of it. That would work for me. Maybe a few letters to Kroger might help persuade them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think the Fiesta at Studemont & 14th would really be a good location to "upscale". The entire area surrounding it has been mostly gentrified. For me in the SE part of the Heights, the Fiesta on Shepherd is still a bit of a haul...takes the same amount of time to get to the Kroger on West Gray.Everyone wants around here wants a Whole Foods, but Fiesta already has the building, parking lot, and a license to sell alcohol. Call it Trader Joe's Central Fiesta of Whole Foods, and you've got a gold mine. Whole Foods is a bunch of crooks. They stiffed us when we were building their store on Kirby years ago. They apparently had financial troubles and their new store sat vacant for several months. We were told by the general contractor that they couldn't get out of their lease on the Sheperd store. By the time we filed our mechanics lean it was too late. I'll never recommend them to anyone, but then most people in the building trades don't shop at these kinds of places anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Are you a snob? Snobs don't shop at Fiesta...its beneath them.Got an axe to grind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native_Houstonian Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I've heard from a couple of different people that the Kroger on 11th/Shepherd is considering expanding once again into the empty spaces next to it...they are wanting to double the size of it. That would work for me. Maybe a few letters to Kroger might help persuade them?I've heard the same thing. I called about available lease space in that center, and was told that there was nothing available in the Kroger Center as Kroger was going to expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heightsfan Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hello hope your week is going well! I noticed a sign from Page Partners ? Maybe the Fiesta is not surviving the economy slump ? Although I dont think it will be developed into more town homes Any ideas anyone ? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Looks like Weingarten Realty is trying to sell the Fiesta property with the building as a current income producer. I don't know what the chances are of another grocery store going in there, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahiki Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Obviously we're not in a retail-friendly climate at the moment, but I would think that someone might see good reasons to put some nice retail at that location. It's a pretty great Heights location and fairly retail-starved, wouldn't you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 i's rather see retail develop along 11th street and studewood in some of the vacant or more run down buildings. i don't think that part of the neighborhood needs/wants any more traffic. while i enjoy the fiesta for its convenience, i would love to see some residentail go in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) I'd hate to see that property get sold and Fiesta booted... It's one of the better markets in the area (when compared to the Kroger on 11th) and it's an easy stop on the way home.Residential would work but I fear they'd fill up the space with monstrosities Edited February 21, 2009 by Hartmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsets Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 NOOOO!I love that Fiesta, it's so convenient. It would be a shame to see it leave. It seems to do a good business, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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