roadrunner Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Might as well. It hardly carries any car traffic as it is. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 @phillip_white Where is that PDF with the Main Street information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 hours ago, roadrunner said: Might as well. It hardly carries any car traffic as it is. Seriously, I think this would actually improve traffic in the area.Travelling in a car across the tracks, we would only need to wait at a light if a pedestrian pushed a button or whenever a light rail vehicle needed to cross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, wilcal said: @phillip_white Where is that PDF with the Main Street information? Here's that: https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/fff4a3c2-5732-4a3d-8724-9ed39d67e0e1 and more related:https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/2648fab0-6cab-42a0-a8f7-4b46dacb8d7d https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/b9d302ce-e9d8-4d8e-ae55-d1dcd395afcf https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/9ce2b8af-7bbb-40d8-9b80-774cfc0b78ef Mods, feel free to move this elsewhere if it hijacks the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 ^ done, also merged Caroline St. improvements into this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 It's so beautiful. I can't wait. I've been dreaming of them closing Main for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 hours ago, phillip_white said: Here's that: https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/fff4a3c2-5732-4a3d-8724-9ed39d67e0e1 and more related:https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/2648fab0-6cab-42a0-a8f7-4b46dacb8d7d https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/b9d302ce-e9d8-4d8e-ae55-d1dcd395afcf https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/9ce2b8af-7bbb-40d8-9b80-774cfc0b78ef Mods, feel free to move this elsewhere if it hijacks the thread. Can’t wait!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaspora Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Just be aware these are working boards done by Design Workshop and others for the MMD (in concert with funding from the MRA), the result of several series of public workshops and are not yet final. The third pdf in your list relates to current discussions and soon-to-be public workshops on the parameters of a series of public parks capped over 69 at Fannin, Caroline, and Almeda. very much still in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) On 4/12/2018 at 0:33 PM, phillip_white said: Caydon may have been onto something with their renderings. I came across this image in an MRA survey. They are pushing to make Main Street a greenway through Midtown, removing all automobile traffic. This. I really want this. I’ve always thought the entire stretch of Main, from Buffalo Bayou to Wheeler, should be a pedestrian thoroughfare. As ongoing development has shown, there’s a lot of potential along this corridor. Linking all of this together, from the bars of 300 block all the way to Mid Main and the upcoming Innovation District could further stimulate this area, especially with the multifamily developments occurring in South Downtown & Midtown. And furthermore, while there’s an East-West bike lane on Lamar, there’s an absence of a North-South bike lane through Downtown Houston. Option A could be the best way to fulfill that need. Edited April 17, 2018 by tigereye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Is it just me or is everything that's happenned the past week a bit surreal? A new tech district, 50 miles of new bike lanes in the next year, and now the proposal to make Main Street a Greenway! Crazy! Lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 They haven't even finished the improvements but people have already vandalized the street markers by knocking letters off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 16 hours ago, BeerNut said: They haven't even finished the improvements but people have already vandalized the street markers by knocking letters off. Which street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 There's no way to tell now that the letters have been knocked off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, j_cuevas713 said: Which street? I was walking along Main St from MidMain to McGowen Station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, cspwal said: There's no way to tell now that the letters have been knocked off They were there before and now some are missing or hanging. Probably should be secured better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) On 5/29/2018 at 6:17 PM, BeerNut said: They haven't even finished the improvements but people have already vandalized the street markers by knocking letters off. 11 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: Which street? That's Bremond St. The bar at the corner of Bremond and Main hosts large parties on Sunday afternoons, which may just be a coincidence ,but I noticed more letters were missing on consecutive Mondays. edit: it's called the Capitol Bar. The Yelp! reviews are revealing. Edited May 31, 2018 by dbigtex56 Added link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Is there a specific timeline for the street closure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 6:33 PM, dbigtex56 said: FWIW, this week trees have been trimmed on Caroline, small yellow flags planted, and orange markings sprayed on the street and sidewalks. I don't know what this portends... Orange construction barrels have been set down at 30' intervals on the east side of Caroline St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 10 hours ago, dbigtex56 said: Orange construction barrels have been set down at 30' intervals on the east side of Caroline St. On 6/4/2018 at 3:54 PM, j_cuevas713 said: Is there a specific timeline for the street closure? Looks like this project is finally kicking off. Official notice of street closure from TXDOT: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131236591@N05/41700093230/in/dateposted-public/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 YAAAAAAASSSSS FINALLY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 years to complete? Wow... Good to see it starting though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 23 hours ago, dbigtex56 said: Orange construction barrels have been set down at 30' intervals on the east side of Caroline St. This morning the barrels were moved from the curb to the outer edge of the easternmost lane. Signs and barricades were erected. This afternoon the barrels were returned to their original positions; the signs and barricades were removed. Progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Trial run for progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This morning a crew removed a mature oak (?) tree on Caroline just north of McIlhenny. I'm dismayed. My impression was that existing heathy, non-trash trees would remain. While Caroline doesn't have a full allee of trees, there are enough to soften the landscape and provide much needed shade. I hope the plan doesn't call for a wholesale clear cutting and replanting. It takes decades for trees to mature and, selfishly, I don't feel like living quite that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 sad to hear that. a couple possibilities comes to mind... (please remember I am not very familiar with the project) 1) They have a planting pattern in place that this tree did not align with. 2) They needed to access something near or underneath this tree 3) some sort of drainage plan (like Bagby) will force them to dig up some land to accomplish their goal. Either way, the goal should be MORE trees and MORE shade. I love oaks, especially along streets and sidewalks... however, the max height of a live oak is perhaps 40 feet. There are Houston natives that can get up to 100 feet. different trees can create different vibes / settings / etc. Houston has historic forests... planting live oaks everywhere will not recreate a forest setting. Hopefully in this case, there is a plan that will promise something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, dbigtex56 said: This morning a crew removed a mature oak (?) tree on Caroline just north of McIlhenny. I'm dismayed. My impression was that existing heathy, non-trash trees would remain. While Caroline doesn't have a full allee of trees, there are enough to soften the landscape and provide much needed shade. I hope the plan doesn't call for a wholesale clear cutting and replanting. It takes decades for trees to mature and, selfishly, I don't feel like living quite that long. When you say "removed", do you mean they cut it down, or did they move it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Houston19514 said: When you say "removed", do you mean they cut it down, or did they move it? Both, actually. They cut it down and then they removed it. (I should have been more clear about that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Final tally on trees cut down on Caroline (between Hadley and McIlhenny): 3 healthy oaks 1 healthy conifer I large healthy trash tree (chinaberry?) 2 diseased pear trees (no partridges were harmed) 1 unidentified ugly as sin trash tree Trees remaining: 0 Most (five) of them weren't really worth saving. However, I'm disappointed that the oaks were cut down. It takes at least 10-15 years for trees to grow that large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Any update on the Caroline construction? I need to ride by and check it out. Also, I've been thinking a lot more about the potential plan to turn Main into a greenway/bike/pedestrian space. I talked to a few people involved with the creation of the Houston Bike Plan to ask how far Main got in the process of being considered, and they said that some consultants recommended that as an option, but basically nobody felt strongly enough to make that a priority. I think that they should make it bike/pedestrian only from Richmond all of the way to the north side of downtown at Commerce. It should certainly be connected to the museum district, but I don't see an easy way of doing that. I'm no expert, but I believe that 2 bollards per driving lane (per half of an intersection) would be adequate to protect while also letting bikers/pedestrians through. Side streets would need some form of concrete barrier. Across the entire 2.5 mile stretch, you would need 185 bollards and 23 concrete barriers to block half streets. Surprisingly, you lose only 25 parking spots across the entire street, with 15/25 being north of Prairie. Major issues: 1) There would be a landlocked parking lot between Congress and Franklin. 2) The JW Marriott would be plenty unhappy with no street access to their only entrance (and no real chance at the side street because of the light rail on Rusk). No idea how you would handle this. 3) South Main Baptist would lose one of their two exits. Maybe turn Isabella into a cross-street? Open only on Sundays or something like that. 4) Central Houston Cadillac has aligned their parking lot so as to not have any entrances along McGowen or Travis St (and only on Main). For as bad as those issues are, this is such a great opportunity at relatively low cost (bollards and paint and some signal swaps) to add 2.5 miles of dedicated on-street pedestrian and bikeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, wilcal said: Any update on the Caroline construction? I need to ride by and check it out. Also, I've been thinking a lot more about the potential plan to turn Main into a greenway/bike/pedestrian space. I talked to a few people involved with the creation of the Houston Bike Plan to ask how far Main got in the process of being considered, and they said that some consultants recommended that as an option, but basically nobody felt strongly enough to make that a priority. I think that they should make it bike/pedestrian only from Richmond all of the way to the north side of downtown at Commerce. It should certainly be connected to the museum district, but I don't see an easy way of doing that. I'm no expert, but I believe that 2 bollards per driving lane (per half of an intersection) would be adequate to protect while also letting bikers/pedestrians through. Side streets would need some form of concrete barrier. Across the entire 2.5 mile stretch, you would need 185 bollards and 23 concrete barriers to block half streets. Surprisingly, you lose only 25 parking spots across the entire street, with 15/25 being north of Prairie. Major issues: 1) There would be a landlocked parking lot between Congress and Franklin. 2) The JW Marriott would be plenty unhappy with no street access to their only entrance (and no real chance at the side street because of the light rail on Rusk). No idea how you would handle this. 3) South Main Baptist would lose one of their two exits. Maybe turn Isabella into a cross-street? Open only on Sundays or something like that. 4) Central Houston Cadillac has aligned their parking lot so as to not have any entrances along McGowen or Travis St (and only on Main). For as bad as those issues are, this is such a great opportunity at relatively low cost (bollards and paint and some signal swaps) to add 2.5 miles of dedicated on-street pedestrian and bikeway. So wait, the idea of turning Main in to a green space was rejected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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