WesternGulf Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I remember some forumers on this board were arguing about shotguns on this forum and how they were built for the poor. Some people said tear them down and some said restore them. What do you think? Is it worth saving? If you think it is, how would you change the streetscape? http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4668/aa32xt.jpg http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5084/aa45ud.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Fix the sidewalks. Replace the lawns. Fix up the houses. And paint each a different extremely bright color, like the Painted Ladies in San Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 I was thinking about the different color paint too. New Orleans blows me the f*ck away with their house businesses. Especially in the Marigny. I would definitely expand the sidewalks from the stoop to the street. I do not even think Project Row is at its full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Fix the sidewalks.Replace the lawns. Fix up the houses. And paint each a different extremely bright color, like the Painted Ladies in San Francisco. The Houston version of the Painted Ladies, shotguns in the ghetto... . But seriously, I agree and we could even use that as part of an ad campaign promoting a better image, as a sort of poking fun at ourselves. Such uniformity is rare in Houston and we need to preserve what little we have, so as to provide the eyes with a little relief now and then. These are in Third Ward, I believe, and could remain either affordable housing or be converted into commercial like the Project Row Houses. Here's what Historic Houston did with a shotgun this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I like the siding and the trim, but I'm not wild about the foundation. And that first step is a doozie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 did anyone end up with the shotgun house? i know it was offered in their auction, but i don't think it was bid on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Not surprisingly, I'm in favor of preserving/restoring these houses.How interesting that although they're otherwise virtually identical, the color of the brick porch support piers varies from one house to the next. I think that the houses being uniformly painted white accentuate this feature, but wouldn't be opposed to the 'painted lady' idea, either.And while I'm also a great fan of trees, some of the ones in the photos are posing an immediate threat to these houses. Cut 'em down, and plant small, fast-growing replacements in front of each house. Considering the neighborhood, a continual fence along the sidewalk would deter scamps from playing hide-and-seek with the cops by dodging between the houses. No chain link, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 How interesting that although they're otherwise virtually identical, the color of the brick porch support piers varies from one house to the next. I think that the houses being uniformly painted white accentuate this feature, but wouldn't be opposed to the 'painted lady' idea, either. in the neighborhood i live in, the string of duplexes along the street are all identical, except upon closer inspection, there are different designs in the brick on the front of the houses...it's that small stuff that adds a tinge of character to an otherwise homologous housing setup. it also helps if the residents add their own character with landscaping, etc (or trash, as it may be in some cases... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Judah Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I was reading about a Rice arch. grad student who renovated a shotgun house for his master's thesis...it looked really nice and had windows along the sides for better ventilation or something...maybe they should just get him to renovate and sell the houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I was reading about a Rice arch. grad student who renovated a shotgun house for his master's thesis...it looked really nice and had windows along the sides for better ventilation or something...maybe they should just get him to renovate and sell the houses yeah, it was several years ago, but a neat project: http://media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=3521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashikaga Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I remember some forumers on this board were arguing about shotguns on this forum and how they were built for the poor. Some people said tear them down and some said restore them. What do you think? Is it worth saving? If you think it is, how would you change the streetscape? Tear them down and put in mobile homes. Tear them down and put in mobile homes. They are probably crack houses. Over here, they all have NO TRESPASSING signs on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Bulldozer - Build stip malls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Renovate!Level the foundations, replace rotting floor joists and subfloors, rotten trim and siding. I imagine there's probably termite issues in these homes, so lots of wood to replace.Take the interior down to the studs, rewire the house. Replace plumbing where necessary. Brand new sheetrock and a couple coats of paint will make the interior look like new.Refinish the hardwoods or put in laminates or carpet.Cut down the scrub trees and mow the yards. Maybe put down some small flower beds.BOOM! Attractive little homes for a reasonable price.Development is slowly moving towards these 3rd Ward shotguns. I hope these are kept intact and renovated, instead of being demolished like the 4th Ward was. The 4th Ward could stand a few shotguns sprinkled it amongst the block after block after block of cookie cutter townhomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) BOOM! Attractive little homes for a reasonable price.Development is slowly moving towards these 3rd Ward shotguns. I hope these are kept intact and renovated, instead of being demolished like the 4th Ward was. The 4th Ward could stand a few shotguns sprinkled it amongst the block after block after block of cookie cutter townhomes. renovation would be neat, just have to hope whoever gets his/her hands on these takes the time to do it (which isn't the trend...) besides, even with the huge influx of cookie cutter homes and townhomes in "redeveloped" areas, you'd think there'd be a little bit of room left for something different. it's too bad that the majority of buyers (or projected buyers) like the same boring overpriced thing Edited December 7, 2005 by sevfiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 What is actually happening to these areas is this:Tear down everythingBuild a faux-French Napoleonic Style building with cement covered styrofoam details.Sell units for $500K-$1MMDrive off the local poor residentsBuild 3 story townhomes with ugly garage doors on the first floor.Drive off more local residents who can't aford to live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiDTOWNeR Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 What is actually happening to these areas is this:Tear down everythingBuild a faux-French Napoleonic Style building with cement covered styrofoam details.Sell units for $500K-$1MMDrive off the local poor residentsBuild 3 story townhomes with ugly garage doors on the first floor.Drive off more local residents who can't aford to live there.Now we're talkin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 French Napoleonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 French Napoleonic. But of course! It's like English Tudor (as opposed to, oh, I don't know...Chinese Tudor?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAtomic Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 But of course! It's like English Tudor (as opposed to, oh, I don't know...Chinese Tudor?) Is that like Chinese Modern? No, wait, come to think of it that's supposedly the same as Googie ... Nevermind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 But of course! It's like English Tudor (as opposed to, oh, I don't know...Chinese Tudor?) Well,...um,....maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 It could become a "cute" or "fun" neighborhood. If colored brightly, nice trees, better streetscape, and keep them going. It could be done very nicely. But what am I saying? This is Houston! Either a strip mall or HHN town homes will go over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Fix the sidewalks.Replace the lawns. Fix up the houses. And paint each a different extremely bright color, like the Painted Ladies in San Francisco. I would love to BUY one or 2 of those shotguns move to my big lot place them on raised pilings add a tall dramatic staircase to them and completely renovate as Gothic Victorians ala Galveston/SFO bay area just as you indicated. Would have a fantastic view of A wooded area on left and downtown skyline to the right. Architecture would blend in perfectly with Gothic Turn of the century Cathedral/Basilica across the street! Visitors would think they aren't in Houston at all! Get the movement going! Would rival Heights! Let's go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Well,...um,....maybe... The ol' 70's Pagoda on Chimney Rock. That house is priceless. <-----meaning you couldn't get a price on that house if you tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 The ol' 70's Pagoda on Chimney Rock. That house is priceless. <-----meaning you couldn't get a price on that house if you tried.I think this is in Glenbrook on DeLeon or Colgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolitx Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think this is in Glenbrook on DeLeon or Colgate.This one is definately in Glenbrook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 This one is definately in Glenbrook.yes, it is back on Deleon near Lakewind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 commercial conversion, like project row housethey would make great artist homes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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