EMME Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 From a person living in Woodland Heights.Lloyd and I took the dog on a walk as we often do after dinner, around 9 Wednesday. When we were 2 blocks north of the house there were two guys hanging out and on their phones. At first I thought "oh no I shouldn't have turned". They just didn't fit, no car, too nice to be the lawn guys, but out of place. They politely asked for a lighter and we said we were sorry we didn't smoke and never broke stride. We went one block up and back over and heading back to the corner where they had been. We heard a woman screaming and a car horn honking. Honestly it was so shrill at first it was like she was squealing and laughing. Then it continued... Lloyd and I wondered if it was a domestic dispute and the woman was screaming. Then you think, do I get involved? Is it safe? Mind you, this must have only been 30 seconds. We finally realized something was very wrong and Lloyd took off running with St Nick and I trying to keep up. The two guys took off across the street in front of us before we got there. They beat up a guy and stabbed him in his heart to steal his car. They didn't get it b/c the girl with him had started honking the car horn when the assault started. The ambulance came and took him away and they aren't sure he'll make it We gave our reports and while we were still there the guys stabbed another person on the Heights blvd and stole the persons tahoe. Lloyd and I are feeling very fortunate right now. They spoke to us to get a feel. I'm not sure what made them decide to leave us alone, St Nick, Lloyd and I together or that we weren't near a car. Either way, I feel like our safety was very nearly gone. So, moral of the story, be mindful of those around you. And be observant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) From a person living in Woodland Heights.Lloyd and I took the dog on a walk as we often do after dinner, around 9 Wednesday. When we were 2 blocks north of the house there were two guys hanging out and on their phones. At first I thought "oh no I shouldn't have turned". They just didn't fit, no car, too nice to be the lawn guys, but out of place.Can someone provide us with a description of these hijackers? This sounds like something that would be printed in the Chronicle -- suspect description sanitized for political correctness. Edited June 6, 2009 by heights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Having spoken to and speculating with several neighbors of this event, we are wondering if it wasn't an intended hit on this guy. Again, fully speculation, but it is odd that there is absolutely NO press coverage of this. It is odd that they went after a guy in a car in what appears to be a rundown apartment building when there are several upscale houses all around there with nice cars on the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 those apartments look pretty rundown, but the cars in the parking lot are mostly decent and there are normally a few nice ones. I've never seen inside the apartments, but i'd suspect they are nicer on the inside than the outside. I walk by there almost daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Having spoken to and speculating with several neighbors of this event, we are wondering if it wasn't an intended hit on this guy. Again, fully speculation, but it is odd that there is absolutely NO press coverage of this. It is odd that they went after a guy in a car in what appears to be a rundown apartment building when there are several upscale houses all around there with nice cars on the street.Perhaps someone there has relatives who were recently smuggled into the US illegally. Edited June 8, 2009 by LTAWACS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Perhaps someone there has relatives who were recently smuggled into the US illegally.Or a drug deal gone bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 None. In fact, you can laugh along with the cops at how funny the perp looks hogtied like a calf at the rodeo.So no risk of a false imprisonment charge, even if I chase them off of my property, catch them, then bring them back to tie them up and throw feces at them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiamj Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Forwarded from a neighbor in 1800 block of NautsLast night about 9:45 PM I was home alone, when I heard the doorbell ring. I got dressed and made my way to the front door. I asked him what he wanted and he told me "Wrong house, sorry". I noticed that he walked back to a truck (parked 2 houses down from me incidently), got in the passenger side, and the truck drove off.A few minutes later I decided they were casing the neighborhood, so I got in my truck to go find them. It didn't take long. I found the truck on Brooktree and followed them all over the neighborhood. They were clearly acting in a suspicious manner, driving up and down every street methodically. The truck stopped, so I stopped - this happened several time. Once they figured out that I was following, the truck made its way to TC Jester so I turned around to come home.Sometime before I started to follow the truck, the driver must have let his passenger out in another part of the neighborhood - probably to case another section - because I found him walking down Lazybrook.I pulled up to him and told him that I had already called the cops and he took off running.Here's the info I have:Truck is a two-tone, small size Chevy pickup truck with a camper on the back - handicapped Texas license plate 2YZDP The man who knocked on my door was a black male approximate 5'8, stocky, somewhat muscular with short hair. Early 20's. Edited June 12, 2009 by samiamj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic08 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Very scary indeed, and I think it's really great that you took action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good job. While it may not stop the criminals, it may send them off your street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggity Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 very proactive!I want you living in my neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Here's how my evening went last night...[8:30 PMI was in my back yard, when I saw my neighbor's (across the alley in back of my house) ladder moving away from his garage. Since I have a 6 foot privacy fence, at first I thought it was falling but then realized someone had it. I picked up my little six pound foster Chihuahua and ran to the back fence where I can see over. I still could not see who was carrying the ladder, but felt certain that my neighbor would not be carrying it up the alley, so I said very deeply, "Drop It," and he did. At the same time, the girls that live across the street from the alley entrance had seen the SUV park caddywampus to the alley, a Hispanic, 6 foot guy wearing black tshirt and black shorts and black&white atlhletic shoes got out and went up the alley. A blond white girl in the car moved to the drivers seat. The girls went to their neighbor across the street from them who also backs up to the alley and told him someone was going up the alley, so about the same time I said, "drop it" the male neighbor was walking toward the guy. The girls got the license plate number. It was a black Suburban or Yukon, license plate number 89G YZ9 . It was a very tall ladder. One theory is that he was going to use it to break into the back of a new garage apartment that backs up to the alley. Keep an eye out. 12:00 MIDNIGHTSo Officer Nutt and Officer Alvarado just left. Officer Alvarado pretty much told me that there was nothing they could do since it wasn't my ladder, the guy didn't take the ladder, etc. So let me get this straight. There were four witnesses to this man going into the alley, into somebody's yard and stealing from them, and because we stopped him, there is nothing they can do? Ok, let me get this straight, there were four witnesses, two that wrote down the description and license plate of the vehicle, one that came face to face with the thief and got a description to include height, clothing and even the color of the man's tennis shoes, and even spoke to him, and there is NOTHING they can do? And further, we called this in at 8:30pm and the police came at 11:45pm? You know at that point, let me sleep if there is NOTHING you can do. Let me say, that the police in my area have done a bang up good job in the past. But something is slipping. A few Saturdays back I called 911 about a gang faceoff in the middle of E. 25th street with several young men and trucks were about to fight (with their trucks). I told the dispatcher that they needed to get over here fast because something really bad was about to happen. It was well over 30 minutes before they arrived. No wonder crime is increasing. Well, at least we stopped the thief tonight. Me and my 6 pound Chihuahua seem to be, in this case, more effective than Officer Alvarado. An HPD investigator called me today and is actually investigating this. YEA! And seems to be being pretty thorough about it. He thinks they are probably linked to other criminal activity. My thought exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seoid Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 An HPD investigator called me today and is actually investigating this. YEA! And seems to be being pretty thorough about it. He thinks they are probably linked to other criminal activity. My thought exactly!Good! I'm sure they aren't just a "one-hit wonder." People who are that brazen with their illegal activity ususally aren't new to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Good! I'm sure they aren't just a "one-hit wonder." People who are that brazen with their illegal activity ususally aren't new to it.Just heard back from the investigator. This is evidently a really bad guy and he could go away for a long time for this petty theft. He wouldn't go into details with me but suggested it would be in the community's best interest for my neighbor to press charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Just heard back from the investigator. This is evidently a really bad guy and he could go away for a long time for this petty theft. He wouldn't go into details with me but suggested it would be in the community's best interest for my neighbor to press charges.My guess would be a longtime drug user and thief. A petty theft with 2 prior convictions for theft bumps the charge up to a felony. Prior felony convictions can bumpt the felony into higher classes of felony...all the way up to 25-99 years in some cases. It is not uncommon at all to see a longtime drug addict with numerous felony drug possession convictions, as well as numerous theft, forgery or burglary convictions. Given that the only way to get this small theft up to felony level is with other thefts, it would not surprise me if that is the case. That, and the fact that an overwhelming percentage of these thefts and burglaries are committed by drug addicts in search of $20 (or less) for a crack rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 My guess would be a longtime drug user and thief. A petty theft with 2 prior convictions for theft bumps the charge up to a felony. Prior felony convictions can bumpt the felony into higher classes of felony...all the way up to 25-99 years in some cases. It is not uncommon at all to see a longtime drug addict with numerous felony drug possession convictions, as well as numerous theft, forgery or burglary convictions. Given that the only way to get this small theft up to felony level is with other thefts, it would not surprise me if that is the case. That, and the fact that an overwhelming percentage of these thefts and burglaries are committed by drug addicts in search of $20 (or less) for a crack rock.In the neighborhood next to mine, somebody used a found ladder to gain access to the house. So it was probably not about the ladder at all, was going to use it for other reasons. We have lots of gang members in the area as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 In the neighborhood next to mine, somebody used a found ladder to gain access to the house. So it was probably not about the ladder at all, was going to use it for other reasons. We have lots of gang members in the area as well.Perhaps, but with the number of one story homes in your neighborhood, coupled with the pawnability of ladders, that would not be my first guess. You'd be amazed at the number of ladders stolen and pawned. Especially aluminum ones for scrap value. And nighttime thieves tend to go for the easy stuff...items in the yard, unlocked cars, and the occasional unlocked or open garage. Burglars are overwhelmingly daytime operators, due to the fact that a large number of homes are unoccupied. These people are not looking for confrontation, just a few bucks for their crack.Even armed robbers are opportunists. They see someone walking near a major thoroughfare (escape route), no one around, and jump them. The whole thing is over in less than a minute. Home invasions tend to be people who are known by the robbers. The robbers believe that there is a large amount of money, jewels or drugs in the house, making it worth the added danger of getting caught or shot. An unknown residence is easier to hit when it is unoccupied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Perhaps, but with the number of one story homes in your neighborhood, coupled with the pawnability of ladders, that would not be my first guess. You'd be amazed at the number of ladders stolen and pawned. Especially aluminum ones for scrap value. And nighttime thieves tend to go for the easy stuff...items in the yard, unlocked cars, and the occasional unlocked or open garage. Burglars are overwhelmingly daytime operators, due to the fact that a large number of homes are unoccupied. These people are not looking for confrontation, just a few bucks for their crack.Even armed robbers are opportunists. They see someone walking near a major thoroughfare (escape route), no one around, and jump them. The whole thing is over in less than a minute. Home invasions tend to be people who are known by the robbers. The robbers believe that there is a large amount of money, jewels or drugs in the house, making it worth the added danger of getting caught or shot. An unknown residence is easier to hit when it is unoccupied.The odd thing is he was in a sparklingly clean, not very old black Suburban which is how we identified him with his license plate. Dressed well and clean, though in black tshirt and shorts with black and white athletic shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seoid Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Just heard back from the investigator. This is evidently a really bad guy and he could go away for a long time for this petty theft. He wouldn't go into details with me but suggested it would be in the community's best interest for my neighbor to press charges.Wow! Well good. I really hope something happens.HPD has been patroling quite a bit more lately in my area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiamj Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Robberies, kidnappings in Houston Heights09:05 PM CDT on Monday, June 22, 2009Jeff McShan / 11 News HOUSTON Edited June 23, 2009 by samiamj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Is this the entire report? "The man in the blue shirt" and his "buddy"? How about a better description of the men and their car so that there is an actual chance of catching these guys? In the meantime I guess I'll keep a lookout for a man in a blue shirt and his buddy riding in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Is this the entire report? "The man in the blue shirt" and his "buddy"? How about a better description of the men and their car so that there is an actual chance of catching these guys? In the meantime I guess I'll keep a lookout for a man in a blue shirt and his buddy riding in a car. Yeah, Channel 11 was spot on with that reporting, huh? The news in Houston makes me go --> and then Link to the story with video of perp Edited June 23, 2009 by heights_yankee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMME Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 That is really scary. Does anybody remember seeing any reports about the previous kidnapping. If so, does anybody know exactly when and where it occurred? We really do need more information when these things occur. I wonder if there is anyway to get these reports close to real time so that neighbors can be on the watch. HPD says, and I believe correctly, that they need us to partner with them for them to succeed in catching these guys. I think that would work better if we had a better direct communication system other than the media. The media is reporting for an entire region, be it city, or national. They can't be expected to give us in this immediate area all the details in a timely manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heightsite Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Have you seen this thug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 hrmgn.. when are surveillance cameras going to be good for surveying?"Look! Here's a fuzzy picture of a guy with a blue shirt on!"..I guess it's better than nothing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiamj Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I have been advised by one of our patrol units that he responded to a call yesterday, where a male was selling alarm systems in our area. The story which the male gave this officer sounded "fishy" and he verified some information which could be helpful to others. When approached by the officer, the male stated that he was selling home alarm systems for APX Alarm Security Solutions and was licensed and permitted by the City of Houston to sell the alarms. The City of Houston DOES NOT license, permit or endorse anyone or any company to sell alarm systems or any other item! He apparently misrepresents himself as being endorsed by the city with the hopes that this information could influence someone's opinion to purchase an alarm system at an expensive cost.This officer spoke to one of our divisions which in turn spoke to someone at the Texas Department of Public Safety which investigates and regulates alarm companies. The person at DPS stated that alarm companies in Texas must have a permit to sell systems from the State of Texas, not the City of Houston, and they must be able to provide a copy of the permit to you. Remember, the City of Houston does not endorse, permit or license any company to sell any product door to door! All City of Houston employees who may come to your door will have a uniform and/or an id card with the City of Houston Seal, their photo and name and title. Also, for consumer safety reasons, use a reputable company which you know and also contact the Better Business Bureau before allowing a contractor to work on your house. Please pass this along to other residents in your neighborhood and advise them "buyer beware!"Thank you for your help with this matter. Houston Police Heights Storefront1127 N. ShepherdHouston, Texas 77008Phone (713) 803-1151Fax (713) 803-1155 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 APX is purportedly a Honeywell dealer. They have been in the 'hood before. Their guy, who acts like a stoner, showed up at the house on Tuesday. He acts like he's with your security company. "Oh, yeah, we'll upgrade the sign in your yard, and replace it with one that has a light". I said "You're not with Brinks, are you"? He said "I'm glad you asked that", then explained that, indeed, he was not in SO many words. Then he asks me if I know how to test the door sensors. And I asked, "You mean, like when the alarm starts squeaking when I open the door"...? He didn't have an answer to that. I told him that it was pretty sleazy to imply that he was with my alarm company. I told him I was in the middle of a contract project (which I was),and I didn't have time for this. He replied, "Wow, that's something". I said, shaking my head at the idiocy of this conversation, "Okaaaayyy..Uh, Goodbye". I went inside. He headed for my neighbor's house across the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesman Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I have been advised by one of our patrol units that he responded to a call yesterday, where a male was selling alarm systems in our area. The story which the male gave this officer sounded "fishy" and he verified some information which could be helpful to others. When approached by the officer, the male stated that he was selling home alarm systems for APX Alarm Security Solutions and was licensed and permitted by the City of Houston to sell the alarms. The City of Houston DOES NOT license, permit or endorse anyone or any company to sell alarm systems or any other item! He apparently misrepresents himself as being endorsed by the city with the hopes that this information could influence someone's opinion to purchase an alarm system at an expensive cost. This officer spoke to one of our divisions which in turn spoke to someone at the Texas Department of Public Safety which investigates and regulates alarm companies. The person at DPS stated that alarm companies in Texas must have a permit to sell systems from the State of Texas, not the City of Houston, and they must be able to provide a copy of the permit to you. Remember, the City of Houston does not endorse, permit or license any company to sell any product door to door! All City of Houston employees who may come to your door will have a uniform and/or an id card with the City of Houston Seal, their photo and name and title. Also, for consumer safety reasons, use a reputable company which you know and also contact the Better Business Bureau before allowing a contractor to work on your house. Please pass this along to other residents in your neighborhood and advise them "buyer beware!" Thank you for your help with this matter. Houston Police Heights Storefront 1127 N. Shepherd Houston, Texas 77008 Phone (713) 803-1151 Fax (713) 803-1155 They are stating they are working with the police department and have their co-operation. And the first words out of their lips......"We are NOT selling anything", the guy insisted to speak with the home owner even after I told him we were not interested in buying !!! Once he got in the door he started with they need to verify who the home owner was and that (specific ) neighbor gave us your name, and just had the system installed( the installer is in the neighborhood and can set up in about an hour after you sign up). ...well let's say ....he was very good at his sales pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samiamj Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Got this from the Apex alarm website: CONSUMER INFORMATION: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goastros Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 At the old house there were roving bands of guys coming by and asking everyone if they had an alarm system. What dufus would tell them "no" if they didn't have one??? Then they would know exactly who to come back and rob. They came by and asked me and I told them yes, plus I have a vicious dog as did everyone in the Heights so he was wasting his time. Never saw them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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