editor Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 MILWAUKEE, of all places, is talking about developing a commuter (heavy) rail system, while the mere mention boils the blood of certain congressmen representing the Houston metro area. Come on, Houston! Time to get on board! Take a giant leap into the 19th century.Meetings scheduled for southeastern Wisconsin commuter rail planUNDATED (AP) - The public has a chance to get more informationabout a plan to build a commuter rail system in southeasternWisconsin.The Southeast Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission is holdingpublic meetings on the plan this week.The plan calls for a commuter rail system to link Kenosha,Racine and Milwaukee counties.Commission planner Otto Dobnick (DOB'-nik) says the system wouldgive people more travel options. The commission is also lookinginto using a bus system instead of trains.The public meetings are scheduled for tomorrow in Kenosha,Wednesday in Racine and Thursday in Milwaukee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I doubt we ever will.All we care about is red light cameras, red light synchronization and feedling Katrina bums.Oh, and making sure Carol Teflon Alvarado becomes mayor one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thing is we're planning it but it'll never get finished before the world ends.And Austin was talking about a rail system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 We would have rail all over town right now if it weren't for a little DELAY... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Well Kathy Wittmire was going to have rail........she was going to turn Hosuton into an international city but government stopped her. Then there was Bob Linear how faught hard against it. There were attempts before that. Infact Houston had the world's first monorail. It was experimental and ran from Downtown out Gulfgate. Edited February 22, 2006 by Plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 MILWAUKEE, of all places, is talking about developing a commuter (heavy) rail system, while the mere mention boils the blood of certain congressmen representing the Houston metro area. Come on, Houston! Time to get on board! Take a giant leap into the 19th century.Good job, Milwaukee. I grew up near there and I'm happy to see they are considering rail. Amtrak has long wanted to connect Madison-Milwaukee-Chicago on a higher speed rail line but that's hit plenty of snares. Connecting Racine and Kenosha to Milwaukee would be very important, too.As for Houston, we'll keep trying. The biggest influence on rail lines in Houston is population density, as we all know. Denser commercial and residential inside the loop (inside the beltway, truly) will dramatically increase the need for rail. Milwaukee has about twice the density of Houston. (Of course that's largely because Houston city limits know no bounds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CE_ugh Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well Kathy Wittmire was going to have rail........she was going to turn Hosuton into an international city but government stopped her. Then there was Bob Linear how faught hard against it. There were attempts before that. Infact Houston had the world's first monorail. It was experimental and ran from Downtown out Gulfgate.Your posts are a constant source of amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) We would have rail all over town right now if it weren't for a little DELAY... I forgot about that! You're right!! Why the hell did he do that in the first place? Felt kinda betrayed By the way, Original Timmy Chan's, why'd you choose to post that fuugly pic of Delay? Couldn't find any better? Looks like PacMan before his Extreme Makeover.... Edited February 22, 2006 by DJ V Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well Kathy Wittmire was going to have rail........she was going to turn Hosuton into an international city but government stopped her.Umm...Plastic? Kathy Whitmire WAS the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Good job, Milwaukee. I grew up near there and I'm happy to see they are considering rail. Amtrak has long wanted to connect Madison-Milwaukee-Chicago on a higher speed rail line but that's hit plenty of snares. Connecting Racine and Kenosha to Milwaukee would be very important, too.As for Houston, we'll keep trying. The biggest influence on rail lines in Houston is population density, as we all know. Denser commercial and residential inside the loop (inside the beltway, truly) will dramatically increase the need for rail. Milwaukee has about twice the density of Houston. (Of course that's largely because Houston city limits know no bounds)SO you do agree that all inside The Belt is the CBD of the town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well Kathy Wittmire was going to have rail........she was going to turn Hosuton into an international city but government stopped her. Then there was Bob Linear how faught hard against it. There were attempts before that. Infact Houston had the world's first monorail. It was experimental and ran from Downtown out Gulfgate.I may be wrong but, I will keep saying it. Lanear and all the other developers who run this city have always been against rail for the simple reason that it would get folks out of their cars. That would result in less folks being inclined to jump in their cars in drive to the strip malls that those guys develope all over the place. The last thing they want is a train going down the Katy full of commuters who can't stop at the strip mall on the way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 SO you do agree that all inside The Belt is the CBD of the town.CBD = Central Business District? I'm not sure what you mean.I'm just saying that denser everything drives mass transit in every form. Kind of obvious, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The last thing they want is a train going down the Katy full of commuters who can't stop at the strip mall on the way home.Not to mention the train passing all of those oil companies on the Katy. How would that look in the Oil capital of the world?It has always been my opinion that Houston seemed to have lost some of it's edge with the loss of Kathy Whitmire that we still have yet to regain. I am not saying she was the best mayor in the history of the city, but she seemed to have an ability to see the "big picture" moreso than some of our more recent mayors despite how popular they were.Because rail just doesn't appear overnight, I am a bit concerned we haven't been agressive enough on the issue, particularly on the planning of it for the future. It looks like Milwaukee has the right idea. Wouldn't it be cool to ride the train from Milwukee down to Great America and then on to Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Who cares about the fools who live in Katy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I may be wrong but, I will keep saying it. Lanear and all the other developers who run this city have always been against rail for the simple reason that it would get folks out of their cars.Lanier is now pro-rail. He campaigned in support of the referendum. He justified killing it in the 90s on the basis that he needed the money to fight crime, but now is in support of rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 CBD = Central Business District? I'm not sure what you mean.I'm just saying that denser everything drives mass transit in every form. Kind of obvious, but oh well.Trust me when i say kill this chain of comments right now. Plastic had an entire thread dedicated to calling everything inside of Beltway 8 the central business district. I forget what he wanted to call downtown, but either way, don't tempt him to revive that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Lanier is now pro-rail.Of course he his. Now that he sold all this land along the Beltway and SH 249. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 People in Katy fools? My you're getting off to a bad start.As for rail not stoping by the oil companies the park and ride doesn't either.WHat I think we need is 2 sets of trains. Like on The Katy Route, there's be park'n rides for downtown commuters and an express train for everone else. The park'n rides would for the certain area directly to Downtown. The express would stop at every major ighway. Infact it would be adjacent to entertainment centers.It would start downtown and go to The Marquee Entertainment center at 610 nd I-10. Then go to a new center that I'm hoping willl get built at I-10 and TheBelt. Then go to another new center at HWY 9 and I-10,and then finally go to Katy Mills Mall. There'd be transit centers at each stop for commuters to catch smaller buses or change trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Oh, you know what I mean.This is Houston. Are we in the business of facilitating Katy's transportation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well in Houston's defense, Milwaukee's commuter rail is basically an extension of the Chicago Metra commuter rail--and that already goes into Kenosha, WI. I rode the whole hour and a half trip from downtown Chicago to Kenosha and heard this little kid reciting his phone number with his parents over and over and OVER. Bad experience. The kid looks at the route map as says "We go to this and then this and this and then thiiiiiis, and then home" Home was I think Waukegan for the little guy, thankfully.At least Houston does have the one light rail line in place now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I find myself paralyzed by laughter after reading this thread. My sides hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp2 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 MILWAUKEE, of all places, is talking about developing a commuter (heavy) rail system, while the mere mention boils the blood of certain congressmen representing the Houston metro area. Come on, Houston! Time to get on board! Take a giant leap into the 19th century.Milwaukee probably isn't the best place to use an example if you want to promote commuter rail. Several years ago they started a commuter rail line from the west, to coincide with the major reconstruction of I-94. It was a failure and was discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) I find myself paralyzed by laughter after reading this thread. My sides hurt.hell yeah!!I don't know if Houston and Milwaukee are comparable because of the space Houston would have to cover to accomodate everyone. Commuter rail makes sense to me for Milwaukee. Houston needs it, but it should have been started a LONG time ago. Edited February 23, 2006 by DJ V Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Good job, Milwaukee. I grew up near there and I'm happy to see they are considering rail. Amtrak has long wanted to connect Madison-Milwaukee-Chicago on a higher speed rail line but that's hit plenty of snares. Connecting Racine and Kenosha to Milwaukee would be very important, too.Amtrak has gotten most of its wish. The Milwaukee-Chicago run has 14 trains a day, and it's only 20 bucks each way. Amtrak even got a new station at the Milwaukee airport so people from Chicago can get cheap Midwest Airlines flights without having to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) heck, even alburquerque gets commuter rail now:http://www.mrcog-nm.gov/index2.aspedit: that one isnt finished yet..http://www.mrcog-nm.gov/Rail_Runner.htmdont forget about nashville:http://www.musiccitystar.org/index.html Edited February 25, 2006 by zaphod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Who cares about the fools who live in Katy?Katy is a METRO member city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 That can't be right, Metro doesn't runout of Harris COunty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 That can't be right, Metro doesn't runout of Harris COunty.From the Metro website:Cities within the METRO area include Houston, Bellaire, Bunker Hill Village, El Lago, Hedwig Village, Hilshire Village, Humble, Hunters Creek, Katy, Missouri City, Piney Point, Southside Place, Spring Valley, Taylor Lake Village and West University Place. Major portions of unincorporated Harris County are also included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 That can't be right, Metro doesn't runout of Harris COunty.Yes it does. Missouri City is in Ft. Bend County and participates in Metro. Katy is also in the Metro service area and is mostly outside of Harris County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Are there any commuter train lines sched to be started and or completed before all light rail lines have been completed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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