MaxConcrete Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I just received the 2003 TxDOT traffic statistics (it usually takes 8 months to compile it).The big news is stunning traffic growth on I-45 North. North of Loop 610, daily traffic count reached 317,000 vehicles per day. Near Gallery Furniture, the traffic count was still above 300K, an impressive 304,000 vpd. The North Freeway is only the second freeway in Houston (and Texas) to break the 300,000 barrier. The Southwest Freeway at Chimney Rock remains Houston's traffic champion, with 345,000 vpd, down slightly from 349,000 vpd in 2003.To see the growth on I-45N, here are some numbers just outside the Loop2000 259,0002001 281,0002002 288,0002003 317,000There's always a chance of a data anomaly, but assuming correct data this is a 10% growth rate from 2002 to 2003. Also impressive are the traffic counts at BW8, 309K just south of BW8 and 295K just north.In the meantime, the underutilized Hardy Toll Road remained stagnant at 60,000 vpd just north of the Loop.In terms of vehicles per lane per day, the North Freeway is surely now in L.A.'s league. The west Loop south of US 290 was at 298,000 vpd. It is poised to become Houston's next 300K freeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 That is pretty interesting. But it does sound like this could just be a data anomaly... that is a huge jump in just a year. Also, I was surprised to hear the traffic count on the West Loop is higher north of I-10, I would think it was highest between 59 and I-10... at least that's where it's most congested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 That is pretty interesting. But it does sound like this could just be a data anomaly... that is a huge jump in just a year. Also, I was surprised to hear the traffic count on the West Loop is higher north of I-10, I would think it was highest between 59 and I-10... at least that's where it's most congested.Yes, but between 59 and 10, the west loop was still in its original configuration until the project to rebuild it started last year. Much of that congestion was related to inadequately designed ramps that caused traffic to back up onto the freeway from the frontage roads.Between 10 and 290, the west loop was rebuilt and widened in the mid 1990s, increasing its capacity in that area. Also keep in mind that 290 dumps all of its traffic into 610 there, and much of that traffic heads south on 610 to 10, then exits to 10 to continue heading east to downtown. In that short section the freeway is practically carrying all of 290's traffic plus all of the people using the west loop to get to/from the Uptown area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincoRanch-HoustonResident Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Ya, the Katy is the most congested freeway in Houston but only carries about 230,000 vehicles per day. The North Freeway is congeseted mainly because of those sprouting Northern communities like the Woodlands, Spring neighborhoods and Conroe. I can see the Eastex Freeway doing the same thing with its booming commuities like Kingwood and Atascocita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted October 29, 2004 Author Share Posted October 29, 2004 I can see the Eastex Freeway doing the same thing with its booming commuities like Kingwood and Atascocita.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes, the Eastex Freeway has seen phenomenal growth since construction was completed. Data just north of Loop 6102000 164,0002001 192,0002002 212,0002003 238,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Any mention of how many tons of air pollution this equates to...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Any mention of how many tons of air pollution this equates to...?Haha - good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 If people will endure that much congestion, but they are too cheap to take the Hardy Toll Road, this tells you how well the Grand Parkway is going to be able to support itself with tolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincoRanch-HoustonResident Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 MaxConcrete, where did you find this information at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted October 29, 2004 Author Share Posted October 29, 2004 MaxConcrete, where did you find this information at.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I ordered the data from TxDOT. It's available on CD. I'm not aware of it being available online. CALTRANS puts California traffic data online. As you may guess, California has a very large number of freeways with >300k vpd. In fact, I think it's safe to say that they have more 300K freeways than the rest of the country (probably world) combined. They have a couple freeways very close to 400K vpd. The Katy Freeway will have the potential to exceed 400k vpd when it is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincoRanch-HoustonResident Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted October 29, 2004 Author Share Posted October 29, 2004 If people will endure that much congestion, but they are too cheap to take the Hardy Toll Road, this tells you how well the Grand Parkway is going to be able to support itself with tolls.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually, the Grand Parkway should be compared to the Sam Houston Tollway, not the Hardy Toll Road. As you're surely aware, the Sam Houston tollway is congested and is a cash cow. In fact, I think TxDOT is jealous of HCTRA and now TxDOT wants its own toll cash cows.In the short term, I think the controversial F-2 segment can support itself. It will take some time for the other segments to cover their cost via tolls. Still, I don't think TxDOT cares if a project will cover its cost. Their philosophy build now, and then start tolling existing freeways to cover the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted October 30, 2004 Author Share Posted October 30, 2004 How?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here's the easist way to get the 2003 datahttp://www.firericwilliamson.com/download/Dist2003.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 As you may guess, California has a very large number of freeways with >300k vpd. In fact, I think it's safe to say that they have more 300K freeways than the rest of the country (probably world) combined. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe someday Houston can be a leader in that category as well, of cities with the most freeways over 300K vpd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Maybe someday Houston can be a leader in that category as well, of cities with the most freeways over 300K vpd I'm not sure that's a statistic that I want to see us achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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