mkultra25 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Looks like something in the Pantone 380-390 range, or, in layman's terms, "baby $#!+ green". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 That is some serious nit-wittery. Has the guilty party been identified? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Seriously. What was the point of this? Every single choice they made was awful. Again - this was owned by the city. This should not have happened. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I call myself a preservationist. There is no one flavor of preservation... I often empathize with people who look at things differently in an attempt to preserve at least some of our history... However, this house was so severely stripped and reconstructed with non-historic materials, I am not sure why they bothered at all. Are the columns even the historic columns? The windows are new and different in design than the originals. The siding is not real wood. The interior is all new. And to add insult to the entire process, they decided to add this partially covered stair case in a bad 90's style attached to the "original" house! What even is this tumor on the backside of this home? At best an addition to a historic house does not distract from the original home. This addition looks like a 1990's garden apartment staircase in the suburbs!? Why did they even want this house if they were going to do all this to it? Why did our historic preservation office not work with them on best practices? So many questions... 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post H-Town Man Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, Avossos said: And to add insult to the entire process, they decided to add this partially covered stair case in a bad 90's style attached to the "original" house! What even is this tumor on the backside of this home? At best an addition to a historic house does not distract from the original home. This addition looks like a 1990's garden apartment staircase in the suburbs!? Yeah, the enclosed staircase is especially rankling. With the color, it kind of makes me think of a 1980's beach condo community in Galveston with a name like "Vista del Sol." There should be a beat up Dr. Pepper vending machine underneath the stairs. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Proposed plat called Capitol Garage for the new parking garage that was rumored. Harvey is the builder. Edited December 12, 2023 by hindesky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 11:57 AM, hindesky said: Proposed plat called Capitol Garage for the new parking garage that was rumored. Harvey is the builder. Does this mean Crane was not able to buy this block for more space for his entertainment development? I know he mentioned he was hoping to build them an underground garage or something so that he could build on the lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 There is literally a garage down the street. So many damn parking garages downtown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATH Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 It's probably about making money from Astros fans wanting a very nearby place to park. And for any other large event at Minute Maid Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 11:28 AM, nate4l1f3 said: Does this mean Crane was not able to buy this block for more space for his entertainment development? I know he mentioned he was hoping to build them an underground garage or something so that he could build on the lot. The garage is to help support the new ballpark village development. Was always part of the plan from the beginning. Nothing new here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I think it for the Catholic school and the parishioners. Most of the students don't live downtown and commute here. The variance says they own it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, tigereye said: The garage is to help support the new ballpark village development. Was always part of the plan from the beginning. Nothing new here hmmm i recall him wanting to specifically build an underground garage so that he could build on top of that land. He was still working to convince the church of that the last tie i heard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Wonderful, another parking garage, just what we need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I think this one is actually good news. If I’m correct it means that the church agreed to let Jim Crain build them a new parking garage in exchange for building on top of the garage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 13 hours ago, nate4l1f3 said: I think this one is actually good news. If I’m correct it means that the church agreed to let Jim Crain build them a new parking garage in exchange for building on top of the garage. Hopefully. There are a lot of ways to build a good parking garage. I once lived in a development where a massive parking garage was lined with townhomes, a restaurant, and a supermarket to hide it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Architect - https://www.pgal.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) If someone has Facebook (Which I no longer have) supposedly there is a post and renderings of the new parking garage on the Incarnate Word Academy and Annunciation Catholic Church Facebook page. Edited May 15 by hindesky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) I found it on their Instagram page. No mention that the Astros will be able to use it. Edited May 15 by hindesky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Oh... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Exactly. What else was anyone really expecting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 15 hours ago, Texasota said: Exactly. What else was anyone really expecting? Parking garages can be done very well. The problem is that the Houston ethos is "good enough." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I can't wait to see this beautiful parking garage rise. Honestly if they put some retail (sports bar anyone?) at the bottom I'd be very fine with it instead of a parking lot. But, based on the render that doesn't look likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 hours ago, editor said: Parking garages can be done very well. The problem is that the Houston ethos is "good enough." No, the problem is the archdiocese. This garbage is 100% in line with their other projects. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/6/2024 at 5:39 PM, nate4l1f3 said: I think this one is actually good news. If I’m correct it means that the church agreed to let Jim Crain build them a new parking garage in exchange for building on top of the garage. So i guess Crane wasn't able to convince the nuns. They're no longer allowed on the big screen at the games!! Seriously tho this sucks because that just means the ballpark village will be a smaller than planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/16/2024 at 3:29 PM, Texasota said: No, the problem is the archdiocese. This garbage is 100% in line with their other projects. You seem to be under the impression that the archdiocese is not part of Houston. Also, while I'm not privvy to any of the arrangements made, generally speaking such a deal would be between the church and the developer, with the archdiocese serving only a distant advisory role. In the Catholic Church, the parishes are organizationally separated from the Church as a whole. It's the reason that when the roof of the church I belonged to burned, the parish had to foot the bill for its reconstruction (and then it burned again), and the archdiocese wouldn't even lend us money. It's also one of the reasons that it was so hard for so long for people to sue the Church (big C) over sexual abuse that happened in a church (little c) or parish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 15 minutes ago, editor said: You seem to be under the impression that the archdiocese is not part of Houston. Also, while I'm not privvy to any of the arrangements made, generally speaking such a deal would be between the church and the developer, with the archdiocese serving only a distant advisory role. In the Catholic Church, the parishes are organizationally separated from the Church as a whole. It's the reason that when the roof of the church I belonged to burned, the parish had to foot the bill for its reconstruction (and then it burned again), and the archdiocese wouldn't even lend us money. It's also one of the reasons that it was so hard for so long for people to sue the Church (big C) over sexual abuse that happened in a church (little c) or parish. Parishes need the permission of the Ordinary and his finance council to spend funds over a certain amount, which usually means that the purchase and sale of buildings would require the Ordinary’s permission (c. 1291). This requirement is meant to protect parishes from their pastor spending large amounts of parish funds without any check or oversight. https://ordinariate.net/parish-property-ownership 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Houston19514 said: Parishes need the permission of the Ordinary and his finance council to spend funds over a certain amount, which usually means that the purchase and sale of buildings would require the Ordinary’s permission (c. 1291). This requirement is meant to protect parishes from their pastor spending large amounts of parish funds without any check or oversight. https://ordinariate.net/parish-property-ownership Does "spending" exist in this context? When a church I used to attend let a developer turn its parking lot into a residential skyscraper over a church parking garage, it didn't "spend" anything. In fact, it makes money each year from the lease of the land to the developer, which built and owns the building. That seems to be what's happening here, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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