JLWM8609 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 9 hours ago, Houston19514 said: Oh no!!!! The feeder will be shut down for SEVERAL WEEKS!! How will we get through this nightmare? (And does it actually have anything to do with the I-45 project? I thought nothing was starting on that until later this year.) I went to the meeting tonight and here's what I found out. A 96 inch storm sewer line is being installed underneath the feeder from the 288/59 interchange to N. MacGregor with an output to Brays Bayou. The feeder will be closed in phases. The first phase will close the NB feeder between N. MacGregor and Binz. The second phase will close the feeder between Binz and Southmore. The final phase will close the feeder between Southmore and Cleburne. The entire feeder will not be closed during the project, and the N. MacGregor and Southmore exits from 288 NB will remain open during the entirety of this project. When the section between N. MacGregor and Binz will be closed, NB feeder traffic will detour westbound along N. MacGregor and north along Almeda to eastbound Binz to rejoin the NB feeder. The Binz exit will also be closed at that time and will be detoured to the N. MacGregor exit to follow the detour along Almeda. The entire project will be tentatively completed around Spring 2027. This is not officially part of the NHHIP, but it's essentially getting ready for the additional drainage that's going to come with the new 288/59 interchange. Additionally, this project ends where the current terminus of the NB feeder is. The NHHIP will extend the NB feeder from its current terminus to join the current feeder on Hamilton, so it will dovetail with that work. The first mainlane construction of the NHHIP will be at the 288/59 multiplex, so that work will be starting when this project is finishing up, so in a way, it feels like preliminary work before the official NHHIP begins. Edited February 8 by JLWM8609 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 13 hours ago, JLWM8609 said: The NHHIP will extend the NB feeder from its current terminus to join the current feeder on Hamilton, so it will dovetail with that work. Correction: should be Chartres, not Hamilton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The Stop I-45 group is trying to stop this drainage project. Their reasoning is TxDOT has claimed it's not part of the NHHIP to skirt air monitoring requirements. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/288-construction-drainage-txdot-19375066.php Local residents have concerns too. Honestly, I was at the last meeting and while I believe they dropped the ball on notifying the community on the project, the project is a plus if it reduces flooding. It's not like properties will be taken. https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/residents-against-third-ward-txdot-project/285-e951da49-6cf8-425f-8369-9ccdf40dc6dc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 3/30/2024 at 11:34 AM, JLWM8609 said: The Stop I-45 group is trying to stop this drainage project. Their reasoning is TxDOT has claimed it's not part of the NHHIP to skirt air monitoring requirements. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/288-construction-drainage-txdot-19375066.php Local residents have concerns too. Honestly, I was at the last meeting and while I believe they dropped the ball on notifying the community on the project, the project is a plus if it reduces flooding. It's not like properties will be taken. https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/residents-against-third-ward-txdot-project/285-e951da49-6cf8-425f-8369-9ccdf40dc6dc The point is the Feds told them they can't start construction yet and they're acting as though this drainage project isn't part of the bigger 45 reroute when it is. At the end of the day TxDOT doesn't care. Even the rep they had at the Baker Institute Transit Forum didn't hold back in letting everyone know that TxDOT's only priority is moving people fast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 8 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: The point is the Feds told them they can't start construction yet and they're acting as though this drainage project isn't part of the bigger 45 reroute when it is. At the end of the day TxDOT doesn't care. Even the rep they had at the Baker Institute Transit Forum didn't hold back in letting everyone know that TxDOT's only priority is moving people fast. The fed construction pause was lifted more than a year ago. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 11 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: The point is the Feds told them they can't start construction yet and they're acting as though this drainage project isn't part of the bigger 45 reroute when it is. At the end of the day TxDOT doesn't care. Even the rep they had at the Baker Institute Transit Forum didn't hold back in letting everyone know that TxDOT's only priority is moving people fast. my understanding is that the reason is because the expansion project is only permitted to proceed after a mandated air monitoring for an entire year, since TXDoT isn't classifying this as part of the i45 expansion, they didn't do the air monitoring, the people who are protesting state that it is. TXDoT's priority isn't moving people fast, their priority is making freeways so people can move themselves. if TXDoT were interested in moving people fast, we'd have bullet trains everywhere, and plenty of commuter rail, as well as more localized rail projects that focused on moving the highest volume of people as quickly as possible. Edited April 2 by samagon 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, samagon said: my understanding is that the reason is because the expansion project is only permitted to proceed after a mandated air monitoring for an entire year, since TXDoT isn't classifying this as part of the i45 expansion, they didn't do the air monitoring, the people who are protesting state that it is. TXDoT's priority isn't moving people fast, their priority is making freeways so people can move themselves. if TXDoT were interested in moving people fast, we'd have bullet trains everywhere, and plenty of commuter rail, as well as more localized rail projects that focused on moving the highest volume of people as quickly as possible. They literally said that word for word at the forum. "Our goal is to move people fast." And you think TxDOT is going to admit this is part of the 45 reroute? Edited April 2 by j_cuevas713 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 The electronic sign at the corner of N. MacGregor and South Fwy. NB feeder says the NB feeder will be closed starting on June 3rd. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 5/26/2024 at 12:38 AM, JLWM8609 said: The electronic sign at the corner of N. MacGregor and South Fwy. NB feeder says the NB feeder will be closed starting on June 3rd. The sign now says June 8th. Not sure if they changed it or I initially misread it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 There's an article in the Chronicle today saying the TxDOT is paying $1,700,000,000 to buy the toll lanes from the private operator. I remember back when we were promised that the 288 median was being built as wide as it was to allow for commuter rail, and a Trans-Texas Corridor expansion. Good times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 18 hours ago, editor said: There's an article in the Chronicle today saying the TxDOT is paying $1,700,000,000 to buy the toll lanes from the private operator. I remember back when we were promised that the 288 median was being built as wide as it was to allow for commuter rail, and a Trans-Texas Corridor expansion. Good times. I think your memory is playing tricks on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Houston19514 said: I think your memory is playing tricks on you. I think you're forgetful. There's my contribution to "Low-quality comment day." Because building along 59 was problematic, the plan was to go east from Sugar Land through Missouri City and then turn north along 288. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 7/31/2024 at 12:39 PM, editor said: I remember back when we were promised that the 288 median was being built as wide as it was to allow for commuter rail, and a Trans-Texas Corridor expansion. Good times. 288 has had a wide median from the start. When it was designed in the '60s, they intended to have express lanes in the median, not tolled though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 12 hours ago, editor said: I think you're forgetful. There's my contribution to "Low-quality comment day." Because building along 59 was problematic, the plan was to go east from Sugar Land through Missouri City and then turn north along 288. Whose plan was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 8 hours ago, JLWM8609 said: 288 has had a wide median from the start. When it was designed in the '60s, they intended to have express lanes in the median, not tolled though. Yes. This is confirmed in Houston Freeways. The wide median had nothing to do with any plans for commuter rail. http://dallasfreeways.com/dfwfreeways/pdf/South_Freeway_72ppi.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I was wondering….What was the number of users( people most likely to use a toll everyday) mentioned ? Was it a huge number? Where those users of a demographic who could pay a toll fee every day? I travel most weekends to SurSide- I observe the new housing developments being build. I see the potential number of new residents; who might need a fast way into Houston. However, the housing additions seem modest- the toll seems expensive for daily use. when the plan was devised….was that factored in? Will Houston factor that in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 12 hours ago, Houston19514 said: Yes. This is confirmed in Houston Freeways. The wide median had nothing to do with any plans for commuter rail. http://dallasfreeways.com/dfwfreeways/pdf/South_Freeway_72ppi.pdf Nothing to add, just wanted to saw that's a really cool document you linked. Didn't realize the ROW for 288 sat empty for many years before construction began. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu2 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Sad honestly - whites destroyed their own areas and moved - built low income housing in place of said places and then it's purchased back at a higher cost decades later when they realize what they had the first time wasn't bad at all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted Thursday at 07:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:34 PM Phase 1 on N. MacGregor is complete. Phase 2 on the feeder is still underway. The onramp from N. MacGregor to 288 North reopened a few weeks ago, and access to HEB from the northbound feeder has been restored. Phase 3 just started (7 months early according to the TxDOT info), so the northbound feeder is now closed from HEB to Southmore, and the northbound Binz exit is closed. Northbound feeder traffic is detoured to the mainlanes between N. MacGregor and Southmore. They're moving pretty fast. Maybe they'll be done well before Apr. '27. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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