Highway6 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Could be worse... Developers could start selling naming rights for this type of project like they do sports arenas and office towers.We could be stuck with "Continental Square" or "The Park at Minute Maid Square.... On the Parkway" Edited January 10, 2008 by Highway6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happytown Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) Well, Allen Square is a great name, coming as it does from local heroes. But I think it would be a bit confusing because of Allen Center and Allen's Landing. I think Parkway Square would be a better choice. Or, since it's just west of downtown, how about WeDo Square? Just kidding. Edited January 15, 2008 by happytown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Or, since it's just west of downtown, how about WeDo Square? Just kidding. West of Downtown.. yet South of Buffalo Bayou............. WeDo SoBuff Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 West of Downtown.. yet South of Buffalo Bayou.............WeDo SoBuff SquareI'm not sure, but it almost sounds like it belongs to the following:A gym in the montroseA park in the montrose.A Bath house.A Bar in the montrose. Go fig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) More and more of the people that buy homes in that area just east of Shephered and just north of the River Oaks shopping center are not comfortable with their million dollar homes being in to Montrose. Of course, the River Oaks crowd doesn't want to be associated with them either. Maybe a good transitional name for the area east of Shephered, west of Dunlavy, south of the bayou and north of 59 would be "Montroaks." As long as it is not alreay covered by part of the "Upper Kirby District." Edited January 15, 2008 by capnmcbarnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 When did the Montrose get zoning? And, why do people buy there if they are uncomfortable with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 When did the Montrose get zoning? And, why do people buy there if they are uncomfortable with it?There isn't any zoning, I was just commenting on what they are labeled. To me, east of Shepherd is Montrose, and has been as long as I was here. But a lot of these new spec homes are listed as being in "neartown," "museum district", "upper kirby," or, in the case of the house built next to me, "River Oaks Area." I think a lot of realtors, and customers, don't want to say they live in Montrose -- hence the ridiculous euphemisms. I'll never forget the shock and awe of my "river oaks area" neighbor when the Harris County Transgendered float lined up in front of his house before the Pride Parade. Pricesess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I'll never forget the shock and awe of my "river oaks area" neighbor when the Harris County Transgendered float lined up in front of his house before the Pride Parade. Pricesess...never heard that term before. Is that when they dress the corpse of Vincent Price up like a princess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Keep in mind that the Greater Montrose area is a general term for a group of smaller communities, some of which have different demographics as well as designs from the other neighbornoods.But Cap'n Barnacle's point about some of the broad labeling of certain areas (that is, Upper Kirby, River Oaks, etc) is well taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 There isn't any zoning, I was just commenting on what they are labeled. To me, east of Shepherd is Montrose, and has been as long as I was here. But a lot of these new spec homes are listed as being in "neartown," "museum district", "upper kirby," or, in the case of the house built next to me, "River Oaks Area." I think a lot of realtors, and customers, don't want to say they live in Montrose -- hence the ridiculous euphemisms. I'll never forget the shock and awe of my "river oaks area" neighbor when the Harris County Transgendered float lined up in front of his house before the Pride Parade. PricesessYou're absolutely right. Upper Kirby really doesn't overlap the Montrose, but "Neartown" was dreamed up specifically as a marketing ploy, so people wouldn't have to admit they lived in "Montrose" and were therefore gay. Of course, tricks that obvious don't really fool anyone but, apparently, real estate agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 You're absolutely right. Upper Kirby really doesn't overlap the Montrose, but "Neartown" was dreamed up specifically as a marketing ploy, so people wouldn't have to admit they lived in "Montrose" and were therefore gay. Of course, tricks that obvious don't really fool anyone but, apparently, real estate agents.mmm.....somehow, I doubt that is the case.Neartown Association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgd Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Most people in the area refer to it as North Montrosehttp://www.northmontrose.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Preliminary Phase I Leasing Planhttp://www.naberkowitz.com/2007/projects/r...20Phase%20I.pdfUpper Level Planhttp://www.naberkowitz.com/2007/projects/r...%20Lease-up.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) Wow, that really is a lot of retail! It's also a small area and only a couple of ways to get in and out. It will impact traffic between West Gray and Allen Pkwy north/south, and Shepherd and Waugh east-west. I'm in that area daily, running errands at lunch and after work, and it's pretty congested now. At the very least, turns lanes and lights at Dunlavy and Allen Parkway will need to go in, as well as turn lanes at Dunlavy and Dallas. There are a lot of steet parkers in that area because all the townhomes surrounding the site. During evening rush hour Dunlavy is stacked from Dallas to Allen Parkway. By 5:30, Allen Pkwy westbound often stacks up at the Shepherd light all the way back to Dunlavy. And West Gray is pretty tricky now, since there aren't any protected lefts at the Dunlavy, Woodhead and McDuffie lights. EDIT: actually the whole area is a pain because of the lack of protected lefts. W Gray and Waugh for starters. Edited February 15, 2008 by crunchtastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpe3 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 If you want to go straight, stay in the right lane. Seems pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 If you want to go straight, stay in the right lane.Seems pretty simple. Ah, but unfortunately I have many left-turn needs. Like all the other people who are going to Allen Pkwy from W Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjones98 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Wow. This project is going to completely change that part of town. It will be great for those of us near downtown to have a collection of shops so close together (that are not in Highland Mall and the Galleria). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 It will be very cool having so much new stuff in walking distance of my office. No more parking lot roulette at the MegaMarshall's when I need lunch-hour retail therapy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Thanks for posting the plans. It's quibbling, I know, but I would have liked the diagonal cross street ("Street B") to have run in a straight line to form a central axis through the development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Thanks for posting the plans. It's quibbling, I know, but I would have liked the diagonal cross street ("Street B") to have run in a straight line to form a central axis through the development.Is there any reason a central axis cannot run on the diagonal? Personally, I really like the diagaonal axis. And I am guess is that part of the reason for it is to lead to (and from) the east end of River Oaks Shopping Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Is there any reason a central axis cannot run on the diagonal? Personally, I really like the diagaonal axis. And I am guess is that part of the reason for it is to lead to (and from) the east end of River Oaks Shopping Center.No, I very much like the diagonal axis, but I would like it better if it weren't bent at the intersection with West Dallas. I would like a straight axis running at a diagonal through both the north and south sections of the site. As I said, I'm quibbling here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 So the "Units" on the upper plan are all apartment space? This thing will be nice when it gets rolling... I just went to Dallas last weekend and was pretty impressed with their West Village development and the area around it, I'm hoping Regent Square has the same sort of feel (except maybe without all the super yuppies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoneybangbang Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 If the this thing gets fully built out then this could easily have 1000-1500 units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 If the this thing gets fully built out then this could easily have 1000-1500 units.How many does/did allen house have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 If the this thing gets fully built out then this could easily have 1000-1500 units.When they first announced the project, they said the first phase will have 740 units and "a future phase" could have 1,000 more units (including both condos and apartments.)How many does/did allen house have?896 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoneybangbang Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 When they first announced the project, they said the first phase will have 740 units and "a future phase" could have 1,000 more units (including both condos and apartments.)Well there are more than a 1000 units on that upper level plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Well, I just hope it hurries along. I've been hearing from a few business owners that business has dropped a bit by not having occupants of Allen house around anymore. It is just fortunate that there is enough business that it doesn't make that big of an impact. I'm assuming that they mean they're just not making as much money as they used to, but they're not going to go out of business because they already have enough patronage to keep them in the black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 That's quite the aggressive site plan, giving the physical size of the area. Are there also plans to rehabilitate the nearby streets like Dunlavy and W. Dallas (maybe the city itself or whoever)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Those new drawings don't seem to show the condo and office towers in the original drawings, but that's not too surprising given the ambitious nature of intial drawings. I was pleased to see they still have space of a boutique hotel. I think there is a definite niche for a small hotel serving the neighborhood. I'll be interested to see how this shakes out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Those new drawings don't seem to show the condo and office towers in the original drawings, but that's not too surprising given the ambitious nature of intial drawings. I was pleased to see they still have space of a boutique hotel. I think there is a definite niche for a small hotel serving the neighborhood. I'll be interested to see how this shakes out...I got word from the developers that they are aiming for a construction start of late summer or fall.I'll leave the pessimism to subsequent posters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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