BenH Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) I've noticed a few houses around town that aren't in the guide but are clearly Mackie & Kamrath's. Many of them have mailboxes designed by the firm as well. Take this one for example: This is 402 Flintwood, less than a block from the Kamrath on Liberty Bell Circle. I couldn't get a clear enough shot of the house, but it's big, two stories and appears to be in pretty good shape. There's also a house that HAS to be a Kamrath on North Blvd. The people that live there had a bunch of noisy teenagers that would throw pool parties at night. It's not painted like a normal Kamrath house. Another possible Kamrath is over on Doliver or Dolsiver (something like that) in Tanglewood. Edited February 28, 2007 by BenH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 950 Kirby at the corner of Tiel Way is Kamrath, so I'm told. I think it is waiting to be put on the market as a tear down as far as I know. I doubt anyone will save it in its current condition. Not that it is for sale yet, but I believe it will be. Wow, it was last year at the Azalea trail that I found out about it. I'm surprised it's not on the market yet.Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 supposedly there is one in Meadowcreek Village off old Galveston Rd & Allendale. There was one of those Sunday articles on Meadowcreek that the Chronicle does in the business section, and it mentioned it once. It described it as backing up to the bayou, and I suspect it was this one, which from afar doesn't look that dramatic, but up close the detailing is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I was in a Kamrath house on Tiel Way yesterday for a meeting. I have been in it before but I have a new found appreciation for it thanks to reading the Houston MOD posts on this forum. I am now so impressed by this house - it is amazing. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1fd Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Very nice...love the setting. I'll bet it'd be pretty affordable if it was on the market, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 This was a good week in terms of picture taking. I've got two houses that are probably Kamrath's that y'all need to see. The first is on South Blvd, which was probably the one up on the HAR listings: The second is quite startling. Imagine driving through Tanglewood's classic ranch-style homes and bloated McMansions, and then seeing a full-on Prairie style house right out of Oak Park: This one is really amazing. The address is 5477 Doliver, I believe, and it was built in 1951. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 This was a good week in terms of picture taking. I've got two houses that are probably Kamrath's that ya'll need to see. The first is on South Blvd, which was probably the one up on the HAR listings: The second is quite startling. Imagine driving through Tanglewood's classic ranch-style homes and bloated McMansions, and then seeing a full-on Prairie style house right out of Oak Park: This one is really amazing. The address is 5477 Doliver, I believe, and it was built in 1951. the south blvd house i know. the last one on doliver, i've never seen. great find! very impressive. thanks for the pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapillionWyngs Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I've been in that house!!!!!!! supposedly there is one in Meadowcreek Village off old Galveston Rd & Allendale. There was one of those Sunday articles on Meadowcreek that the Chronicle does in the business section, and it mentioned it once. It described it as backing up to the bayou, and I suspect it was this one, which from afar doesn't look that dramatic, but up close the detailing is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuilder Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 the south blvd house i know. the last one on doliver, i've never seen. great find! very impressive. thanks for the pictures!The house on Doliver is not a Kamerath (I don't think) If the address is correct It was built in 1999I thought it was even newerhttp://www.hcad.org/records/details.asp?ta...t=0752020270005There are some houses by an architect named Tom Wilson that are done in that styleI am not sure about the one on South? Blvd eitherIt was remodeled a lot recently also950 Kirby at the corner of Tiel Way is Kamrath, so I'm told. I think it is waiting to be put on the market as a tear down as far as I know. I doubt anyone will save it in its current condition. Not that it is for sale yet, but I believe it will be. Wow, it was last year at the Azalea trail that I found out about it. I'm surprised it's not on the market yet.JasonThis ( 950 Kirby) house was definitly a Kamerath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAK Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I should have known this wasn't a thread about the Kamrath twins - neither of whom I have located in quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 The house on Doliver is not a Kamerath (I don't think) If the address is correct It was built in 1999I thought it was even newerhttp://www.hcad.org/records/details.asp?ta...t=0752020270005There are some houses by an architect named Tom Wilson that are done in that styleI am not sure about the one on South? Blvd eitherIt was remodeled a lot recently alsoThis ( 950 Kirby) house was definitly a KamerathThey need to put 950 Kirby out of it's misery. Here's the Doliver record: http://www.hcad.org/records/details.asp?ta...t=0752020270003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey01 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 They need to put 950 Kirby out of it's misery. Here's the Doliver record: http://www.hcad.org/records/details.asp?ta...t=0752020270003I was thinking that the Doliver house was newer too. Very new, actually. This makes me think that inside of the Wrightian facade is just another Tanglewood ranch and they did a fine job of covering it up. Must be a total remodel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuilder Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The house next door to the 950 Tiel way house is a Kamrath alsoI seem to remember that from the touralsoI think the Doliver house is just as true to Kamrath's style inside as well as outsideI think I have been inside it when it was under construction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but two of Kamrath's designs are featured in the books Organic Architecture (#8 Tiel Way) and Modernism Reborn (The Gonzalez house on Tiel Way, don't know the address). Both are newer books, like within the last three years, and have splendid photography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 If you want to lease a Kamrath, go here: http://www.har.com/AWS/AWSF.cfm?tgt=http%3...26cid%3D491724Not one of the better known ones, but it's a Kamrath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I could be wrong, but I thought I read from Michael Brichford's site that 705 Kuhlman is by William Floyd. I could see how it could be either Floyd or Kamrath. It's a pretty fantastic house.We went to the open house that was there last year. Good to see it's not torn down. But these are some of the same pictures as were used then, like they are just trying to get it rented awhile until they find the people to do that.JasonIf you want to lease a Kamrath, go here: <a href="http://www.har.com/AWS/AWSF.cfm?tgt=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch%2Ehar%2Ecom%2Fidx%2FdoSearch%2Ecfm%3Fclass%3D7%26leadid%3D3%26ALLMLS%3DN%26siteType%3DAWS%26cid%3D491724" target="_blank">http://www.har.com/AWS/AWSF.cfm?tgt=http%3...26cid%3D491724</a>Not one of the better known ones, but it's a Kamrath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 I could be wrong, but I thought I read from Michael Brichford's site that 705 Kuhlman is by William Floyd. I could see how it could be either Floyd or Kamrath. It's a pretty fantastic house.We went to the open house that was there last year. Good to see it's not torn down. But these are some of the same pictures as were used then, like they are just trying to get it rented awhile until they find the people to do that.JasonFound it in the guide to MacKie & Kamrath's drawings. Basically what that book tells you is that anything that looks like Wright in town, they probably did. A ridiculous amount of buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 http://www.pinnaclemagazine.com/viewAd.aspx?Ad_Seq=27283Here's the listing on 950 Kirby. Good picture. Wish it still looked that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 supposedly there is one in Meadowcreek Village off old Galveston Rd & Allendale. There was one of those Sunday articles on Meadowcreek that the Chronicle does in the business section, and it mentioned it once. It described it as backing up to the bayou, and I suspect it was this one, which from afar doesn't look that dramatic, but up close the detailing is there. This one hit the market last week at $259,000. It has an incredible backyard. The house is a lot more impressive in person than in the pictures. The agent has the original blueprints on it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I was thinking about 705 Kuhlman today, and looked to see if it were still for rent on HAR. Turns out it has sold.http://www.har.com/HomeValue/dispSoldDetai...p;MLNUM=8443340I don't know if that means the end for this house, but could be.Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missjanel Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I was thinking about 705 Kuhlman today, and looked to see if it were still for rent on HAR. Turns out it has sold.http://www.har.com/HomeValue/dispSoldDetai...p;MLNUM=8443340I don't know if that means the end for this house, but could be.JasonMLS 8443340 is from the sale in July 2006. It has since been for lease but the listing has expired and the house has not been relisted for sale or for lease. I saw the house a few months ago and it was not being maintained very well. I have trouble seeing how you could cough up over a million dollars and then just watch the house fall into disrepair. I understand that most if not all of that price is based on the value of the land but I still can't see why someone would want to buy it and then let it sit empty for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Thanks for clearing that up. We went to an open house and it was fantastic and actually in pretty good shape, definitely worth keeping a year and a half ago. I guess there just aren't enough multi-millionaires with good taste out there to save houses like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 705 Kuhlman is definitely a Floyd... see here... http://memorialbendarchitecture.com/floyd_hcart6.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 705 Kuhlman is definitely a Floyd... see here... http://memorialbendarchitecture.com/floyd_hcart6.jpg Which I saw the moment I found that your site was back up, and concede that you are right. At the time this information wasn't available, but apparently Kamrath at least had drawings for a house for this address as well. Plus, Floyd doesn't seem to have designed using those materials much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Now that this is settled, do either of you have a good picture of it? If not, I can head over this weekend to take one.I think I should include it on Houston Mod's most endangered list. JasonWhich I saw the moment I found that your site was back up, and concede that you are right. At the time this information wasn't available, but apparently Kamrath at least had drawings for a house for this address as well. Plus, Floyd doesn't seem to have designed using those materials much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 Now that this is settled, do either of you have a good picture of it? If not, I can head over this weekend to take one.I think I should include it on Houston Mod's most endangered list. JasonIt's kind of hard to photograph; all the good positions are taken by trees. You'll need a wide-angle lens, too. I have pictures, but not good ones. Front yard hasn't been mowed in a while, and there's probably a flooded driveway by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I too ran across 5477 Doliver (from the air, no less) and saw the 1999 HCAD record on the way here. I'm surprised that it could possibly be 1990s construction and not be bragged on by any architect capable of building such a creation these days. Owner is now Condon Builders, which may be a bad sign. But how about deciding with the aid of HistoricAerials.com? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I too ran across 5477 Doliver (from the air, no less) and saw the 1999 HCAD record on the way here. I'm surprised that it could possibly be 1990s construction and not be bragged on by any architect capable of building such a creation these days. Owner is now Condon Builders, which may be a bad sign. But how about deciding with the aid of HistoricAerials.com?Hard to say with either historicaerials or Google Earth historic maps. The black and whites are too blurry. The closer Google Earth historics only go back to 2002, and the house was clearly there then. Maybe I'll look tomorrow when I am less tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Man Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I always thought 5477 Doliver was newer construction. If not, it is very well maintained. I guess it just helps further the point that some architectural styles are timeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenH Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 It is new construction, or at least within the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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