mattyt36 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Lights at top blue and orange these days for the Astros. Sad that 1600 Smith didn’t do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspersonBuildings Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Does anyone know if the former antenna mast on the roof still serves a purpose? I know with the completion of Allied Bank Plaza (now Wells Fargo Plaza) and Texas Commerce Tower (now Chase Tower) it somewhat blocked the usefulness/operational functions of the antenna. But I came back to Houston in 2000 and the antenna still looked the same. However currently it seems to be stripped down to just a pole. Again, anyone know if it still serves a purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 hours ago, EspersonBuildings said: Does anyone know if the former antenna mast on the roof still serves a purpose? I know with the completion of Allied Bank Plaza (now Wells Fargo Plaza) and Texas Commerce Tower (now Chase Tower) it somewhat blocked the usefulness/operational functions of the antenna. But I came back to Houston in 2000 and the antenna still looked the same. However currently it seems to be stripped down to just a pole. Again, anyone know if it still serves a purpose? I seem to recall reading that now it's just serving the purpose of an architectural spire. Though in that case, because spires count for the height of buildings (unlike antennas), it should then be considered the second tallest building in Houston (the spire makes it 1000 feet even). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspersonBuildings Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Thanks "rechlin" That's kind of what I thought. And good point about "new total height" of the building! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The antenna mast does not count as part of the total height of the building. The CTBUH does not include "antennae, signage, flagpoles or other functional-technical equipment" in height measurements. https://www.ctbuh.org/criteria/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Houston19514 said: The antenna mast does not count as part of the total height of the building. The CTBUH does not include "antennae, signage, flagpoles or other functional-technical equipment" in height measurements. https://www.ctbuh.org/criteria/ I veto that statement, one shell plaza is now our 3rd supertall. May Houston be know as the great supertall city of Texas, with our 3 majestic big ones, 600 travis street: 1002 ft, one shell plaza: 1000 ft, and wells fargo plaza: 992 ft. This is a great addition to the Houston skyline, solidifying Houston's dominance. Edited October 28, 2019 by TheSirDingle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheSirDingle said: I veto that statement, one shell plaza is now our 3rd supertall. May Houston be know as the great supertall city of Texas, with our 3 majestic big ones, 600 travis street: 1002 ft, one shell plaza: 1000 ft, and wells fargo plaza: 992 ft. This is a great addition to the Houston skyline, solidifying Houston's dominance. I guess you can have your own reality, but CTBUH (and not TheSirDingle) is widely accepted as the authority on building height determinations and they do not count antennae and the like. We do NOT have a third supertall. But we do still reign as the great (and only) supertall city of Texas. Edited October 28, 2019 by Houston19514 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Dang that CTBUH always destroying my dreams Edited October 28, 2019 by TheSirDingle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Houston19514 said: The antenna mast does not count as part of the total height of the building. The CTBUH does not include "antennae, signage, flagpoles or other functional-technical equipment" in height measurements. But that's only if it's an antenna mast. It's no longer being used as an antenna mast, but it was decided to leave it up as an architectural spire. So it should count now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, rechlin said: But that's only if it's an antenna mast. It's no longer being used as an antenna mast, but it was decided to leave it up as an architectural spire. So it should count now. No. Just because they have decided to leave it in place doesn't change the reality. It is still what it is and is still subject to removal. More detail from CTBUH: Functional-technical equipment: this is intended to recognize that functional-technical equipment is subject to removal/addition/change as per prevalent technologies, as is often seen in tall buildings (e.g., antennae, signage, wind turbines, etc. are periodically added, shortened, lengthened, removed and/or replaced)." If the mast qualified as an architectural element, it would have done so from the beginning, regardless of whether it also served as an antenna or had antennae attached to it. Edited October 28, 2019 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Hines Management Office Remodel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/shows/houston-matters/2023/07/06/456167/the-extraordinary-measures-it-took-to-build-skyscrapers-in-houstons-soft-soil/ Interview with an engineer with Hines who worked on the construction of this and other buildings both locally and elsewhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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